Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by bit-tech, 21 Jun 2018.
Ok I skim read that.
So he lost his job for having a consensual relationship?
Right. Ok. No, not buying it as that's nonsense even if it's supposedly in a contract. May as well contract in not being able to go to the loo, not going to happen.
If the company has the policy of 'don't shag your secretary', then don't shag your secretary...
But that said, i think they've gone looking for the easiest thing they can fire him for so they don't have to go the through the ballache of booting him out for some of the other things.
Yes, in violation of the non-fraternisation policy that most (large) companies have in place and which can be summarised as, effectively, "don't make the sex at your subordinates."
Basically, Krzanich, as the chief executive of the whole damn shooting match, is considered to be in a position of power. Let's say he's boinking his secretary - I'm not saying he was, this is purely a hypothetical - perfectly consensually, and they split up. Secretary ain't happy about that, claims he used his position of power to coerce her into the relationship. Bosh: Intel's at the heart of a very nasty he-said-she-said lawsuit.
Even if they don't split up, you don't want Krzanich promoting someone he's boinking just 'cos he's boinking 'em - and you don't want randoms coming on to Krzanich in the hopes of being promoted, either.
So, what do you do? You tell management to keep their pen out of the company ink. How do you enforce that? You sack 'em if they're caught in flagrante delicto.
Alternatively, if you're Uncle Clive, you boink your secretary, leave your wife, continue to boink your secretary, leave her and marry a lapdancer half your age, divorce the lapdancer, get back together with your secretary. That's how it's done in Cambridge, yo!
And so the veil of Intel's rhetorical Bullsh*t continuess to play out...
And if playing away, don't get caught lol
When dealing with a relationship where one individual has direct power over the other, how would you ever prove to a court that the relationship was in fact consensual?
The party with power could claim the other threw themselves at them and threatened to cry wolf if they didn't get their way.
The party without power could claim the other made advances with the threat of demotion or dismissal if they were refused.
Even if they both stood up in court and claimed it was consensual, the ongoing fear of reprisal undermines the statement. Moreover how would either individual ever be able claim objectivity in a dispute over discipline, promotion, favouritism and so on? It's a green light to entire rafts of lawsuits every time someone gets or doesn't get what they want.
It's also a pretty standard policy in any large company, law enforcement, military and so on that senior positions don't get to have non-professional relationships with their subordinates. This guy evidently ignored it, since he has been allowed to resign I don't feel bad for him, I'm sure he'll be getting a nice golden parachute on his way out the door. She (or he) better have been hot...
To be fair, in a lot of business sectors, line of promotion = It's not what you know, it's who you blow.
Welcome to the real world
Yeah I do know all this.
What happens if two people actually fall for each other though? Miss out because of job titles?
Sure if that's how you want to live a life at the end of which you can say "at least I had a good job....". Fulfilling....
I suppose in that case they would ask to move departments. I'm more curious if they prohibit employees having relationships with employees of companies like AMD.
No: one of you would change jobs. (Although it's pretty damn hard to fall in love with someone you've not yet dated. Lust, sure. Fancy 'em, immediately. Love? That takes a little longer.)
well I think Intel has being trying to have un-interupted sex with AMD's back doors for several decades,... so yeah.. they're allowed to
no it doesnt.. I loved you the first moment I read your work.
Aye and there's the problem.
But I guess no risk no reward.
You're fired !
Just try to imagine the guy at Intel responsible for reverse engineering AMD products and the woman at AMD responsible for reverse engineering Intel products trying to have a normal conversation with each other
“ so what did you do at work today today?” “Why do you have a notebook and recorder out?”
You, good sir, made my day with that laugh.
Thank you. I’m here all week
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