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News iPod 'squeaks' betray software secrets

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  1. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    [Vader]Your squeeks betray you....[/Vader] ;)

    iPod grasses up bootloader code after being prodded by Student with far too much time on his hands - New Scientist reports on some seriously out of the box (but in the soundproof box) thinking:

    Computer enthusiasts have worked out how to reprogram Apple's iPod music player with their own code using an ingenious acoustic trick.

    They adapted the component that generates clicks - or "squeaks" - as a user scrolls through the on-screen menu in order to extract vital information from the latest generation of the device. This allowed them to install an alternative operating system and make their iPods run games and other new programs.

    The project began when Nils Schneider, a 17-year-old computer science student from Germany, received an iPod for Christmas. Unlike most new iPod owners, he decided to install Linux - a freely available computer operating system not used as standard in iPods - on his device.


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  2. dead_man

    dead_man Confucious say: WTF???

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    i wonder if itll play HL2? if so i found a reason to get an ipod
     
  3. Atomic

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    Some people really do have nothing better to do with their time!
     
  4. kye

    kye What's a Dremel?

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    Believe it or not...ive never seen a ipod.
     
  5. Migishu

    Migishu What's a Dremel?

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    It was only a matter of time before they cracked it.

    I wonder if there will be updated codec support for it now (like Ogg or something)
     
  6. Shadowspawn

    Shadowspawn Another hated American.

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    So he hooked up a piezo to the data stream to download the data as sound bites, then reverse engineered it to feed his own data into the chip? Am I understanding this? That is some serious out-of-the-box thinking. This kids gonna go far.
     
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  8. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    Not quite - he used the piezeo within the iPod (the one that give the click noise when you use the controls) and somehow made it click everytime a byte of the code was being loaded; he then recorded the stream of clicks and then somehow translated them back into readable code on his PC.
     
  9. Meanmotion

    Meanmotion bleh Moderator

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    A classic, 'Wow, that's amazing! Do you have a life?' moment. :wallbash:

    Then again, they're the people that drive technology and innovation forward. :thumb:
     
  10. r3Q

    r3Q Minimodder

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    holy crap. so what can his ipod do?


    i hope they code a new OS for it that isnt as gay - and then code some PC software that lets you interface with it and use it as video\picture\media\data PC sorta deal - instaed of this Itunes BS. i wanna use one - but i just want drag and drop. :grr:
     
  11. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    Wouldn't it have been a HELL of a lot easier to just use the iPod updater software with a hacked firmware or something to that extent?

    I don't see why Apple would care (if they do), they've already got their money and if anything this could increse sales.
     
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  13. dubskies

    dubskies What's a Dremel?

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    wow

    *Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap* ****ing ingenious, kinda ironic knowing that out brains are the most sophisticated and powerful processing device if u call it in the world he just learned how to screw an ipod lol thats tight
     
  14. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    . This is a full stop; use it.
     
  15. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    The iPod has a hdd mode, can be used like any other removable hard drive. You can drag files on it using Explorer just like you would with a normal hdd. Although, the music is categorized kinda weird, so it's a lot easier to use software. There are free alternatives to iTunes like ephPod that have been around for years now.
     
  16. I'm_Not_A_Monster

    I'm_Not_A_Monster Hey, eat this...

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    you're not missing much.

    [dons flamproof asbestos underwear]
     
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