You can upgrade a PC with all the latest hardware, but when is it overkill? At what point do you start to waste money? You say it's far cheaper than buying a console? No it's not. You NEVER have to upgrade a console! Your PC didn't "appear" out of nowhere, you paid for that, and paid "more" than the console's cost initially! Upgrading it, added further to it's costs. Sometimes you can't just "whack in" a GPU either which might cause you to upgrade further. PCs have their place, but the "usefulness" can be found in a whole range of different devices now, so people are less dependent upon the PC. The PC won't die because of "work", it's a tool. Gaming has nothing to do with that. Gaming is something you "do" on the PC, its not the reason it is. Nooo...I WAS not, comparing consoles vs laptops. I included laptops in with handhelds as eating into the PC's (desktop) market share, and cited the reasons why. Have you really been reading any of these posts? Seriously? I even used the term "desktop replacement" when refering to the laptop and reasons why people want them. I'm seriously considering moving in that direction myself as I see less and less value in a hardcore desktop gaming PC! First off, a DS and PSP can game anywhere, at anytime and fit in your pocket! That can be pulled out and used for 3-5-10 minutes or longer, don't need an internet connection ever. The iPod touch/iPhone is getting alot of attention now as well. The only reason I even brought it up was the trend is that people want mobility! Every media function that a desktop can do is being done with handhelds, phones, MP3 players, laptops, netbooks, ect. As far as value for the money? Mobility is huge here! If you not in front of that desk, then the the desktop is doing nothing for you, but if you have your "desktop replacement" laptop or even a decent one, I believe you have the win! Um...The two "misfired 4890s" IS in regards to a post, that "YOU" obviously haven't read! Basically 1080p ain't $h!t! Everybody's doing it, and it's not hard to get, at this rate it's going to be a standard soon. "However", if you're bragging about "higher res" than a console can achieve, "multiple monitor" set-ups, "eyefinity", DX11, ect, ect ect, and "you" ain't doing it, OR you don't even have the gear? Then what the hell are you talking about? "You" ain't doing $h!t! You're playing DX9 console games, with a supposedly DX10 card(s), have all that gear, spent all that money, bragged about it, and all you're getting is 1080p? Hell, so am I, with a $199 console, with the EXACT same game, with the EXACT same content? Btw, alot more console games play at 1080p, than there are DX10 PC games! You actually believe that the PC will survive because of "elitism"? Sooo...let me get this straight, just because you "think" you're the best, (even though all evidence shows you're losing in every-single-meaningful-sales category there is) you'll survive because you "think" you should? Well, if this is you, then your're hurting your platform. http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17028/1/ The PS2 is ten years old and STILL has games coming out that'll play just as well as ever. Your pentiums can't HOPE to play some of today's games! Feed the Crysis and watch them choke to death. Thats the point, The PS2 can still game after ten years, those pentiums can't. Well, we've done that debate to death. It "ALL" depends on the PC's build, AND the game being played for that statement to have any merit. For some reason PC gamers want to ignore that fact and give the PC the automatic win everytime, just because it's on a PC, and it's BS! That is just not the case! MW2 is a prime example as the game was released across all platforms with the exact same content! Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Minimum System Requirements: Hard Drive Space: 16GB free hard drive space Operating System: XP / Windows Vista / Windows 7 Processor: AMD 64 3200+ or Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz or better RAM: 512MB RAM (XP) / 1GB RAM (Vista) Video Card: Shader 3.0 or better 256MB Nvidia GeForce 6600GT / ATI Radeon 1600XT or better The 360 AND PS3 blow that right out of the water! I picked up Left for Dead 2 as well, and you're telling me THAT game, or ANY of Valves games look better that everything on a console, even Uncharted? EXACTLY!!