1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Storage Is it worth buying a next gen NVME?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Vault-Tec, 2 Sep 2020.

  1. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

    Joined:
    30 Aug 2015
    Posts:
    12,228
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    Is it worth buying a PCIE 4 NVME drive for this next gen run of games?

    M$ are now banging on about it, is it worth jumping now? I know the answer is probably going to be no, as anything M$ says takes at least three years to surface.

    I was thinking of replacing my 256gb PCIE 3 with a 1tb gen 4. Too early? prices will drop etc?
     
  2. sandys

    sandys Multimodder

    Joined:
    26 Mar 2006
    Posts:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    290
    If there is bugger all price penalty then yes otherwise no.
     
  3. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

    Joined:
    11 Aug 2008
    Posts:
    7,858
    Likes Received:
    704
    Probably not TBH. Just look at the speeds and latency between Gen 3 and Gen 4, its not the same as SATA to PCIe, so it won't be a huge leap and I doubt we'll get the on-the-fly loading the PS5 has any time soon as how would you manage it for any system without a Gen4 SSD? Plus MS isn't in position to say anything, Wasteland 3 has some of the worst loading times I've had in a game for a long long time!
     
    Vault-Tec likes this.
  4. silk186

    silk186 Derp

    Joined:
    1 Dec 2014
    Posts:
    1,911
    Likes Received:
    147
    I would because 256gb is too small
    • Quantum Break – 178GB
    • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare – 175GB
    • Destiny 2: Shadowkeep – 165GB
    • Red Dead Redemption 2 – 150GB
    • Final Fantasy XV – 148GB
    • Call of Duty: Black Ops III – 113GB
    • Gears of War 4 – 112.3GB
    • Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare – 101GB
    I would grab a Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0. Nvidia saying something about the 3xxx and load times but I'm not really following it.
     
  5. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

    Joined:
    7 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    15,230
    Likes Received:
    3,532
    Wait for the new RTX benchmarks - the GPU direct reading from SSD is supposed to boost game loading etc.. and reduce the bottlenecking that holds back nvme. It might improve matters, but maybe not enough to show the difference between PCIE gen 3 and gen 4 SSDs.

    Also, GN reported a coming price drop in NAND products.
     
    Vault-Tec likes this.
  6. sandys

    sandys Multimodder

    Joined:
    26 Mar 2006
    Posts:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    290
    most gen4s NVMe aren't really maxing out much faster than gen 3 as its early days, so wouldn't worry too much, of course they will in time.
     
    Vault-Tec likes this.
  7. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

    Joined:
    30 Aug 2015
    Posts:
    12,228
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    I had something ping in my brain just before I read that. Nvidia did all of their testing on Intel. So it clearly doesn't seem to matter just yet.

    And yeah, I will wait. I reckon they will get cheaper as predicted once we make the switch over any way.
     
  8. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

    Joined:
    30 Aug 2015
    Posts:
    12,228
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    It's just a place holder that one, literally. I am using it for downloads at the moment. That's what I would replace with a gen 4, when the time comes. I have a 1tb Patriot and a 1tb M.2 Samsung. Evo 970? something like that. It's a bad day when you can't even remember what's in your PC lol.
     
  9. ModSquid

    ModSquid Minimodder

    Joined:
    16 Apr 2011
    Posts:
    981
    Likes Received:
    104
    Just come across this thread as was looking for a similar answer - what's the Sabrent pedigree? I'd never heard of them at all until these NVMe wotsits came along.
     
  10. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

    Joined:
    11 Aug 2008
    Posts:
    7,858
    Likes Received:
    704
    No idea, but LTT seems to use them a lot!!!
     
  11. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

    Joined:
    7 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    15,230
    Likes Received:
    3,532
    I have a couple of Sabrent 1tb Rocket NVMe drives in my main rig - no complaints yet. I chose the TLC Rocket over the QLC Rocket-Q model. It'll probably never happen, but the QLC write-hole performance tank put me off - I'm aware that it's possible on TLC drives too, but to a lesser degree - and the TBW rating is much higher on TLC.
     
    Arboreal likes this.
  12. xaser04

    xaser04 Ba Ba Ba BANANA!

    Joined:
    27 Jun 2008
    Posts:
    2,309
    Likes Received:
    256
    I want those Honey Badgers!
     
  13. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

    Joined:
    11 Aug 2008
    Posts:
    7,858
    Likes Received:
    704
    But why....
     
  14. stuartpb

    stuartpb Modder

    Joined:
    16 May 2008
    Posts:
    1,763
    Likes Received:
    136
    I've never used the Sabrent, in fact I'd never heard of that brand till watching some obscure build video on YT. I have an Adata M.2 2TB and I wasn't sure on that brand either at first but went for it and it's a class piece of kit and the 5yr guarantee swayed it for me. Seem to be hearing more and more about these Sabrent M.2's now though.
     
  15. Arboreal

    Arboreal Keeper of the Electric Currants

    Joined:
    21 Jan 2011
    Posts:
    4,156
    Likes Received:
    847
    So long as we're hearing more for the right reasons, and they're not just dishing them out to influencers to rope us all in.

    TBF they have a 5 year warranty and a 1,700,000 MTBF - is that time or data write amount? Their site didn't say...
     
  16. el2k

    el2k Modder

    Joined:
    18 Jan 2010
    Posts:
    1,715
    Likes Received:
    138
    I have a PCIE x4 Sabrent in my x570 board, haven't noticed any real time differences from use. But it wasn't anymore expensive from what I remember, so no harm in having it..
     
  17. Arboreal

    Arboreal Keeper of the Electric Currants

    Joined:
    21 Jan 2011
    Posts:
    4,156
    Likes Received:
    847
    I guess you're well into diminishing returns territory speed wise. Nothing is going to feel like the jump from hard drives to SSDs; not SATA to NVME or NVME gen 3 to gen 4.
     
    el2k likes this.
  18. el2k

    el2k Modder

    Joined:
    18 Jan 2010
    Posts:
    1,715
    Likes Received:
    138
    Nail on the head there I think sir.
     
  19. Mr Evil

    Mr Evil What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    17 Apr 2015
    Posts:
    36
    Likes Received:
    3
    More than that, an article I saw on AnandTech recently showed a PCIe 3 drive (SK hynix Gold P31) beat PCIe 4 drives in many tests.
     
  20. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

    Joined:
    11 Aug 2008
    Posts:
    7,858
    Likes Received:
    704
    Time, Mean Time Before Failure, usually in hours :) For write endurance it'll be TBW, like my MP510 is 1700TBW.
     
    Arboreal likes this.

Share This Page