Is there ever a good politician?

Discussion in 'Serious' started by Guest-16, 18 Dec 2004.

  1. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Really? Is there ever?? I mean one you'd really want to vote for. I dont understand - if everyone thinks Blair, Bush etc are all a bunch of numpties, why are they in power? Why do we have to put up with always the lesser (??) of 2 evils??

    What makes me even more scared is: There are people that actually vote for them and believe what they say. Eh?
     
  2. penski

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    Mo Mowlem. She rocked the big one.

    *n
     
  3. yodasarmpit

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    Yeh I think we all miss Mo.
     
  4. nohope4me

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    Gwyneth Dunwoody (despite being Labour).
    Lembit Otpik (despite being a Lib Dem).
     
  5. Piratetaco

    Piratetaco is always right

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    the reason blair is in power is because of chavs. which group of people does blair make life easy for? answer chavs. who votes for blair? its those lazy good for nothing chavs.

    / dons flame proof suit /
     
  6. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    I like Howard Dean a lot (former Governor of Vermont). He was campaigning for the Democratic nomination for President this year. He even recieved the endorsement of former VP Al Gore when he was the outsider candidate and hardly anyone knew him (he gained tons of popularity later). He greatly emphasized health care and fiscal responsibility, and I loved the fact that he was just an average citizen, unlike Kerry and Bush.
     
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    Oh and dont forget Boris
     
  9. <A88>

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    We'll never forget Boris... :waah: ... :worried:

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  10. penski

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    Boris wasn't really that good a politician though...sure, he was a laugh but not really all that great at his job.

    *n
     
  11. nick01

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    No decent, honest, hard working person would ever make it in politics. The only way around this would be a hereditary monarchy. Then every hundred generation or so such a person would be in charge, just as a statistical fluke.
     
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    russ feingold i think is great.
     
  13. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    I'm the only person that would do things my way but as I hate politics for a passion don't expect to see me on the ballot anytime soon.
     
  14. GMan

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    Add 5+ terms as Governor and this does not add up to being an average citizen in any way, shape or form. An average Upper Class citizen, perhaps, but not simply an average citizen. Aside from that, I still wouldn't trust anyone that gave up being physician to become a politician. I don't really trust most people that have become doctors in the last 30 years, either. Greed for power or money are the primary motivaters to being a politician or a doctor for most, instead of concern for their fellow people.

    Ross Perot was one of the most honest political candidates I have ever seen. Whether he would have remained that way can't be said.
    Jimmy Carter was just as honest, but just too good to last long.

    I don't believe you can ever have a good person that is also a good politician, at least, not anymore. Backstabbing, bad-mouthing, and all the other political tricks have replaced all the good traits of politicians of days past. (What few there were.)
     
  15. ch424

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    Why? So you can toast "those lazy good for nothing chavs" with a flamethower? :D
     
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  16. Piratetaco

    Piratetaco is always right

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    no i was expecting someone to say tony blair is a good pm
     
  17. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    So "average citizen" may have not been the correct wording. I meant in comparison to Kerry and Bush. Dean was the Governor of one of the smallest states in the country, and was very unknown in the world of politics. I've read his book. He left his home in NY and moved to Vermont, because he wanted to make it on his own. Dean continued his medical practice in the evening, while he served in Vermont's legislature (I don't think he had time to continue his practice while Governor). Frankly, getting a seat in the House of Representatives in a state as small as that, is something you don't need money to do. From there, if people like you, and you do a good job, you can climb the ladder, until he eventually became Lieutenant Governor and then Governor when the former Governor died of a heart attack. I also respect the fact that his family couldn't campaign with him, because his wife had to keep up their medical practice and his son had to attend high school.

    I just like this guy's views and his willingness to confront issues that other politicians avoid. I also agree with him 100% that the Democratic Party has to get back on track and focus on their core beliefs in order to win back control of the White House and Congress.

    Unfortunately, the media (especially the New York Times, IIRC) wasn't very fond of Dean in his campaign. They took quotes from his family out of context and used it against him, published false, un-researched stories, and greatly exaggerated certain stories. The media does this to many other politicians as well, but it was a pretty heavy blow to Dean's campaign.
     
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    Lord_A Boom baby!

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