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It's Jover: Harris vs. Trump

Discussion in 'Serious' started by yuusou, 6 Jul 2020.

  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  2. Risky

    Risky Modder

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    It's the US Secret Service that is responsible for protecting Ex-Presidents and yes they screwed up, big time.
     
  3. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    Kamala Harris is the obvious choice as Biden's replacement.
    As Vice President, she's already on the ticket, so has access to the existing campaign funds.

    BTW - Doesn't Trump look old? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Risky

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    Yes and he had endorsed her and most of the leading alternatives have publicly backed here so it's probably a done deal.

    (but Adam Kinzinger made an interesting point the other week l that if she wasn't going to be on the ticket and the Biden-Harris campaign wanted to support anther ticket, they would refund donations to the donors that wanted to switch their contributions and the rest could go into a super-PAC. However thankfully this isn't necessary here).
     
  5. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    Yes, I was going to mention the funding… Any other candidate would have to start fundraising again, but Harris, as @IanW says, has access to the 90-odd million raised so far.

    Not really any other choice for the Democrats.
     
  6. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Micheál Martin isn't it still?

    EDIT: Nope, it's Varadkar again....
     
  7. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    FTFY!
     
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  8. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Oldest presidential candidate in history.
     
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  9. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    Apparently, she's also raised another $67m since the announcement, and also received endorsments from the governors of Illinois & Michigan.
     
  10. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    The amount of money in American politics is absolutely batshit wild.
     
  11. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    I wish her luck, but I just don't think the USA is ready for a female leader. At least not yet.

    PS her neck freaks me out.
     
  12. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    IIRC all the UK parties combined spent less than the average senator does on their election.
     
  13. walle

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    Takes a lot of money to put on a show.
     
  14. Risky

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    As I recall there were lots of people, particularly this side of the pond that smugly claimed that Americans were too racist to elect a black president, just before they did exactly that, in an election were race wasn't a big issue.
     
  15. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    It's not smugness dude. I wanted Hildog in, but yeah we know how that went. I wasn't surprised Obama got in. He had little competition, and is very handsome. Handsome presidents tend to do well (JFK and fam, Slick WIlly etc).
     
  16. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    That was against a very different Republican Party though, against a much, much more respectful (and demonstrably sane) opponent. Plus Obama's race was made an issue, remember the whole birth certificate business? Back then those people were the looney fringe of the Republicans and the actual campaign politely ignored them. 16 years later the looney fringe of 2008 look positively reserved. I can see the phrase diversity hire coming up a lot in the next few months.
     
  17. RedFlames

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  18. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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    I see the Russian bots have been reprogrammed with new messages.
     
  19. Risky

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    Have a look at this ad from her primary campaign in 2020.... seems still relevant
     
  20. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    I'd take a crusty sock from a teenagers bedroom over Trump, so Harris doesn't have a high bar to clear, but American politics is so absolutely insane I'm highly doubtful a woman of colour is going to beat Trump. The right are going to go after her for her skin colour, some dumbass interpretation saying she can't be president (as they did with Obama), being a woman, being a VP that either got no coverage or negative coverage, and those rightwing ****nuts are going to absolutely eat it up.

    Couple that with what seems to always happen - Blue apathy - and I'm expecting the orange turd to be pardoning himself and quashing all charges against himself in January.

    Unless he straight up drops dead on live TV, like that neo nazi old guy.
     

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