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Cases ITX crazy

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Pie_uk, 11 Aug 2013.

  1. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    Has the whole scene of building your own pc all moved to mini ITX now? I haven't built a computer for over 6 years and back then the Silverstone TJ07 was king and that thing was massive!

    It seems like everyone is obsessed with getting everything in a really small case with a small foot print, and I don't blame them. In fact i switched from my watercooled TJ07to the Silverstone Sugo SGo1e years ago which was for the micro-ATX sized motherboards etc.

    My point is, where is this going to end up (mac mini?) it seems everything is able to become smaller apart from the graphics cards which are seemingly become HUGE.
     
  2. mars-bar-man

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    I think that's what makes epic ITX rigs so special. Small, weak looks PC and then BAM! Left turn, you're playing BF3 on something no bigger than your average mousemat.

    A few years ago I managed a fully watercooled ITX build with an i7-860 at 4GHz and a GTX460 with its nuts clocked off. Loved that rig.

    Sent from the public toilets outside the pub.
     
  3. LightningPete

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    It still is, according the latest copy CPC to drop on my doormat yesterday
     
  4. Uxon

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    I'd say the majority of gamers are still going for full ATX builds with a small minority going for matx or itx either for space saving or taking to friends places/LAN parties... While I can see the appeal of an itx rig you'll never have the same cooling or expansion options as a larger case. For me the cooling + being able to add plenty of HDDs or whatever is far more important than size.
     
  5. Andy Mc

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    The reason I'm going itx is space. As it stand I no longer have room for a case the size of my P190. The fact that you can cram such a good build into a tiny space is fantastic. But it costs you in the wallet.
     
  6. aLtikal

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    I really want to get an ITX build with dGPU for gaming. Cant wait :)
     
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  7. Darkwisdom

    Darkwisdom Level 99 Retro Nerd

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    That is not as true nowadays. The last few graphics cards to be chugged out haven't changed massively in performance but have two very noticeable differences; size and power consumption. Take the cooler off of a GTX 670 and you'll see a tiny PCB. They even made a 670 mini.
     
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  8. NetSphere

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    I do think that a lot of people are now starting to make smaller rigs. Partly because you can get a large amount of power in a smaller footprint, but also because for some (like me) watercooling and SLI-ing isn't in the short term (next 5 years) horizon.

    I am still renting, that means moving every so often as circumstances change and lugging around a 11+kg case is simply not attractive every time I move every 1-2 years. I'd like to think this is the same for a fair few people.

    The market has moved to the point where you can get powerful rigs in tiny spaces. Sure, the cooling may not be awesome, but quiet is semi-achievable and power is usually sufficient in a i5-k + single powerful GPU.

    But then, I like to think I am a enthusiast-lite, not a uber-modder.
     
  9. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    Some very insightful replies there, thanks guys!

    Interesting that the TJ07 is still king (according, as you say, to the cpc magazine of late) I loved mine, and as the poster before me mentioned, moving about every year or two was actually the reason I downsized to the Sugo.

    I'd agree that the expanse isn't there, however, HDD's 3.5" sata's for example you can get what now? 3TB for little over £100? take the sugo sg06... that has room for a 3.5" and 2 SSD's, and even the SSD market has come down in price substantially to the point where a 1tb (two 500gb in RAID) wouldn't be astronomical like it used to be. Meaning in my eyes, I cant see the reason you would need an ATX nowadays?

    Furthermore, you can even buy these small ready made water coolers from the likes of zalman, corsair etc which, from a quick google search, indicates they will fit without the need to crack out the dremel in some ITX cases! again negating the dichotomy of needing extra space for this or looking for an external solution to address all your cooling needs.

    I think if I were to go back to a gaming PC, it would be a mini-itx for sure, the smallness is very appealing, I like the fact you can cram power into something so small as mars bar man pointed out. However I don't miss updates and errors of installations and problems with windows in general and for that reason I cant wait to get my hands on the PS4 if truth be told. Moreover I am quite comfortable in bed writing this from my macbook air whilst watching the tv and not having to be sat at a desk.. horses for courses :)
     
  10. jrs77

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    When I go over to hardwareluxx.de allmost 75% of all the worklogs there show the TJ07, so I wouldn't say that "all" of the people are going smaller and smaller. Alot depends on the forums you visit and what people do hang around there.

    Here on bit-tech the people seem more settled and reasonable and that's the reason for more reasonable builds which are totally realizable in a miniITX form factor (i5/i7 + single GPU).

    I've had a Sugo 06 and a LianLi Q08 so far but I switched for µATX again as the bigger cases can be cooled more silently, especially if you have a somewhat beefy GPU on air-cooling.
    Now however, after getting more and more disinterested in playing games I'm switching back to miniITX again and even smaller with a Chieftech BT-02B as I won't need anything beefier than a HD7750 or something alike.
     
  11. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    Ah, I guess it really all depends where you look then and what seems to suit the more hardcore enthusiasts.

    Reason I owned a TJ07 back in the day was to be able to mod it fully and integrate triple radiators and custom loops.

    I am really tempted to get into the mini ITX scene, and perhaps fit a graphics card that could handle a selection of recent titles with good graphics. But at the same time, I know i wouldnt use it as much as a PS4 when its finally here. Thing is, its the building of the system I enjoy the most, then once its done it gets boring pretty quickly for me. But if I ever get a chance to build for a friend I would suggest mini itx for sure.

    The graphics card debate I guess is still the same in terms of SLI/crossfire I assume? as in, buy one good card not two lower ranged when priced together
     
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