JobSearch.Google.com to replace monster.com?

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  1. DreamTheEndless

    DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon

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    Ok - I couldn't find a place to submit a "general" suggestion in google labs - only the ability to make suggestions on existing projects - so, I thought I'd take my idea here and then maybe some how get it to get enough attention that google will notice. I don't blog - so I don't really have many other outlets.

    I am fed up with monster.com. I feel like a whore every time I use their website as my eyeballs are being offered up cheaply to anyone who can pay a little money for them. Advertising on a website is one thing, but in order to use monster's services, I have to click "no thanks" on a full page ad for nearly EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION. (And by using their services, I am already providing them the paid content they use to make money - namely my resume. You see, it's only free for job seekers; companies that want to search the resumes on monster.com have to pay for it.) Would anyone use bit-tech if you had to click "no thanks" on a full page ad every time you went to a news article or ran a search or went to a new thread? Who do they think they are?

    Of course, some of their competitors treat their customers much better. (Dice.com rocks) Still, the experience could be improved.

    What do we do on a job search site?
    1. submit 1 or more resumes so that employers can find us.
    2. search through existing job postings for jobs that meet certain criteria including geography, skills, and keywords.
    3. create automated "agents" or "alerts" that notify us when a new job posting meeting our criteria is posted.

      if we are an employer,
    4. search through resumes trying to match open positions
    5. presumably, create automated "agents" that notify us when a new resume has been posted that meets our criteria.
    6. post new job openings.

    Is there anything here that google wouldn't excel at? Really - posting new resumes and job reqs could utilize their existing web based word processing functionality along with well made wizards. The rest is just searching. I'm willing to risk saying that searching is something google does well.

    If google did create a jobsearch website, they could stick with the traditional model of charging employers to access the tool, or perhaps they could even go to a fully ad supported model - but if they did, you would know that those ads would NOT interfere with you actually using the service.

    The only conceivable downside for google would be putting monster.com and the others out of business and thereby losing advertising customers..... Who cares?

    This would be such and easy and big win for google, I'm surprised they haven't done it yet.

    Questions? Comments? Thoughts?

    (If any of you know anyone on staff at google.com please email them a link to this thread.
    If any of you have well read blogs, please post a link to this thread.
    If you work for monster, I'm sorry, but you can't treat your customers like this and expect to survive.)

    And, last but not least - I am putting this idea out into the public domain for anyone to use without any thought or expectation for recognition or compensation. Consider this and "open license idea" available for anyone to do with as they wish.

    --Thanks.
     
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  2. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    I tried using Monster.com a couple years ago. I quickly realized that there are about 3 actual jobs listed on the site. The rest of the "jobs" are all entry-level sales (i.e. cold calling and/or door-to-door kind of stuff) or bogus job scams. It seemed like every other listing was "MAKE 50K - WORK FROM HOME OMG!!!"

    Maybe it's better now; I haven't been back in years.

    If Google do develop a job site, they would do well to filter out the garbage.

    -monkey
     
  3. geek1017

    geek1017 What's a Dremel?

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    I'd definitely use a google job search service.

    I too tried Monster.com almost two years ago now when I graduated from University.
    I was posting my resume anywhere that would take it in a shotgun approach to my job search.
    None of the jobs appealed to me at all. I received no offers.

    I haven't been back since. and yes, the ads were extremely annoying.
     
  4. DreamTheEndless

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    I really thought this would get a little more attention than this. I thought everyone hated monster.com.....
     
  5. geek1017

    geek1017 What's a Dremel?

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    The forum is mostly British or other European; maybe they don't use Monster.com?

    Even so, compared to any job listings site, I'd think Google could do it better.

    (and yes, I do welcome Google as the new global overlord.)
     
  6. Atomic

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    I hated Monster, it seemed every other job was a 'work from home' rubbish.

    The sites layout isnt very nice either.

    In the UK www.reed.co.uk is awesome! Lovely layout, everything is where you think it should be and there is a good selection of jobs :)
     
  7. DreamTheEndless

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    I first used monster.com about 7 1/2 years ago - and it got me a job that lasted 7 years. Since then, it has changed. The BS that they do with ads that actually interfere with the use of their website is new and obnoxious. My current job was found through dice.com - and if you are in the US I would recommend them over monster - both because the site is easier to use and because what monster is doing shows a lack of respect for their users that I find offensive. (I currently have a resume listed on both - I'm torn between removing my monster.com resume out of principal and sheer laziness. I know that all the employers use both sites, so I'm not really gaining anything by having a resume on both.....)
     
  8. geek1017

    geek1017 What's a Dremel?

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    The problem that I have with any of these job search places, and most job listings, is that they are not at all looking for a person with my skillset.
    They're often too general with me wading through many pages of drek.

    I'm not IT. I'm not looking for a managerial job. I certainly don't want to be a sales clerk.

    Very few have any mention of International Relations.
    I guess I just need to market myself better.

    Sorry if I've gone OT.
     
  9. Lazlow

    Lazlow I have a dremel.

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    I can't speak for my fellow Brits, but I used the UK version of Monster (.co.uk) when I finished my degree.

    I didn't find it of any use at all and soon tired of it, probably due to annoyances. I unsubscribed from all their mailing lists, but I still get the odd email from them.
     
  10. fev

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    why not make you're own job... a recruitment agency

    you can pay my 5% next year
     
  11. DreamTheEndless

    DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon

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    Thanks for the bump guys. I still think Google could do this better than anyone else - provide more accurate matches, not spam you with advertising in your mailbox and onscreen.

    Anyone else hate monster? Anyone else think Google should move into this?
     
  12. Lazlow

    Lazlow I have a dremel.

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    I agree with your idea and I'm surprised that Google haven't yet created this - it also doesn't appear to be in their Labs section.

    Scribd allows people to upload documents for the world to see, couple that with Google Docs and you've got a decent replacement to Monster. If it needed to be ad supported, then the Google ads wouldn't interfere with your experience.

    Contact them again! Though my brother told me that they receive something like 2,000 CVs/Resumes a day from people wanting to work there.
     
  13. themax

    themax What's a Dremel?

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    I tried monster last year after separating from the Air Force. I get their little notices monthly on new opening and none of them they send me match the details I put in. Ontop of that, as others have said, all I see half the time are those work at home ads. No thanks, for me.

    I used Dice.com and clearancejobs.com and both got me over 10 calls/emails from recruiting companies. It would be interesting to see how google would move into this and compete with monster.
     

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