Something to share. You can have kids, move away & the council will pay for everything. Something learned earlier. Neither of the parents work but they got a free house by the seaside. Something which the bank refuses to give me a mortgage for despite me working my arse off for. Absolute BS and unfair!!!! /rant over
My sisters friend got pregnant at 15 never worked a day in her life and probebly never will instead she spends all her dads money on herself and claims benefits instead of getting work and paying for occasional childcare, wonders why occasionally her friends are slightly bitter about it, she wants a council house so she doesn't have to live with her mum where she doesn't pay anything goes out saturday nights and gets pissed up and gets into arguments with her. Its the same with a guy i know quit work because it was affecting his and his room mates benefits instead of telling them to **** themselves he just quit and now does nothing but live of benefits... Lifes not fair im afraid but hopefully you can get satisfaction from a hard days work that things you earn you've had to work for it.
It's BS. I can't even mortgage a house for £75k yet get 2 kids & its all yours on a silver plate. Absolute bollocks!
You realise its not for the person having the child but rather the child that this happens though? Whilst its unfair on us as taxpayers, its unfair grossly more on the child if they have to grow up in squalor. But I agree there could be a better system - something more encouraging of going to get work maybe? TBH I dont know the system all that well
I have 2 sisters. Me and the oldest one have worked are arse's off, to get to where we are today. She is a branch Manager of a bank, and has done very well for her self. Me, I have worked since the age of 11, from when I had a paper round, to a evening job after school, to pay for the things I wanted. I have never claimed any benefits, as I have never needed too. Now my youngest sister...Well, lets just say, she was daddy's little girl, and got everything... She has never worked a day in her life. @ 16, she left home and moved in with a friend. She then claimed to the council that she was getting kicked out, and had no where to go. She got put in a B&B for 1 week before she got given a brand new 2 bedroom flat. My dad, being the good person he is, spent £5K in furnishing her flat etc. She then got married (Husband is a low life scum bag who doesn't want to work either) and had 2 kids, so she then got a brand new 3 bedroom house. Being daddy's little girl again, she got him to furnish that as well. Today, she has 3 kids, and a 4th on the way. So she will soon be looking at getting a 4/5 bedroom house. I only found out a few months back, that my sister is claiming disability allowance for 2 of her kids (ADHD) Which is because she can't be bothered to give her kids the time and dedication. So with that, She is claiming £30k of benefits a year. Let alone the back pay she got when they excepted her kids had a disability, and carers allowance. That there tolled nearly £15K in back pay. To put this into perspective. I work long hours in my job, and am usually away 4 nights a week. With that, I earn £45K+ a yr. After tax and NI, I take home £30K+ a yr. My youngest sister is earning the same money as me, sat on her arse getting everything given to her on a silver plate. Then to get £15K rebate, in back pay of benefits. That really p!ssed off me and my partner, as well as my older sister! Well that's enough from me, as I will have no hair left, if I carry on this rant...
mean while in a little country down south that i'll just call Portugal , you just lost your job thanks to the rising in taxes and the "European crisis" that made the company's struggle (but not the management they get a nice big bonus in the end for the amazing job of burying the company to the ground )and the revisions on the work codes that allow for bosses to fire even more easily , and because now you don't have a job and can't pay for your loan on your house the bank just seizes your house but you still have to pay the loan so you are now homeless jobless and with a loan to pay , and it doesn't matter if you have kids or not ... ..... anyhow does anyone want to trade ? lol
Remember that everyone is entitled to child benefit! It's about £1k/year for the first child, then £680/year after that. I'm sure there are other benefits that people in full-time employment can get too.
Maybe if people were remunerated properly they'd have a proper incentive to work. Oh, and maybe if there were jobs available they'd get a job. The problem is this - wages in the UK are vastly smaller than what they should be. People work a long 42 hour week to be remunerated with pebbles. It's an absolute disgrace how people put up with it (I'm not saying acting alone they can do anything, but with organisation they can). If we had a living wage policy in place, everyone who worked a fulltime week would be remunerated enough to be able to afford a house, car, holiday etc - they'd be able to achieve a much better standard of living than the pathetically low minimum wage of £6.08 an hour. You can't live off that. And it isn't fair that anyone who works those long hours should be paid that low. Also, because people earn so little, they have to get income support/housing benefits/council tax benefit etc, which increases the tax bill for everyone else living in the UK. The way we remedy this is by (yes, through legislation) forcing companies to pay a living wage that lets people have a decent life. It's not like we can't afford it. Britain's absolutely awash with money, but it's concentrated so narrowly in the top 1% that everyone else suffers. We have companies like Tesco paying pebbles to the people on the shop floor, but the people at the top earning 400x as much. Anyone who thinks this is fair and just needs a good look in the mirror. It's ruining Britain. I agree that there are some welfare witches out there, but their actions have to be taken in light of what I said above. That working is hardly an incentive when payment for it is so low.
...but like the Murphy's, I'm not bitter. What seaside are we talking about? Redcar, Cleveland? Because you'd have to pay me to live there too (well, more than the clinical consultant salary I was offered). I respect the fact that you work hard for what you earn, but if you want to have principles, you need to embrace them for better and for worse. This you choose to do, and all that. You have to accept that other people may choose not to. That is unfair, but it is also their business, not yours. All you can do is be the change you want to see in the world. Otherwise, if a life of feckless indigence is so attractive to you, just quit your job, and churn out multiple kids and join the people you complain about.
I have always worked hard, didn't go to Uni and at 25 I am doing very well at work currently studying at Uni on day release. If I lost my job tomorrow then I would have no problem signing on and getting every penny that I am legally entitled to. It's nice to know that there Ian a safety net but like any system some people will abuse it. I would be interested to see some statistics on people claiming benefit to see how many have never worked etc.....
Don't feel like your country is the only one with these problems, we have the same issues in the U.S.
Yep, because they're not linked in the way you think they are. Companies could easily afford to pay employees better wages if they were forced to more equitably distribute wealth among the company. There is money there; it's just concentrated in the highest tiers of the company (and grossly so). They could be forced to distribute wealth more fairly in numerous ways: you could simply increase the minimum wage; or make it so that no employee can earn more than 10x the amount of the lowest paid employee; or allow representatives from all parts of the company to sit on the board of directors and thus be able to have a direct say over wages; or simply democratise workplaces and have it so that everyone votes for the policies of the company, from pay to pension to working hours and so forth.
You would drive the high performing workers out of the country if you implemented this and just end up with average people doing a bad job which would make less profit etc..
I agree with longweight it ain't a nice situation but the business or company are in it for themselves not for you, they create competition to get the best employees. I certainly wouldn't stay in my job if someone with no degree and less experience was paid the same amount as me. Make your money work for you not work for your money.
My neighbours haven't work a day in their lives. The gentleman, which I can see jumping on a trampoline currently claims disabilities for an injured knee, which he cannot work due to, apparently. Despite this injury, he has managed to father 11 children, 3 of which now claim benefits too, with one having a child on the way. The family has a pile of free laptops, a free 11 plate car and still moans that they are hard done to by the council and need a bigger house, so in order to do so will have another child. I hate this country sometimes, I really do.
I know some people who don't work, but live together in a £500,000 house together.. While others work their asses off for a semi-decent house. ...Sent using Tapatalk 2, Sensation XE.
