Windows Keep XP Supported

Discussion in 'Software' started by xp-T, 22 Oct 2010.

  1. Apocalypso

    Apocalypso Fully armed and operational.

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    I knew I'd get pulled up on that ;)
     
  2. Guinevere

    Guinevere Mega Mom

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  3. xp-T

    xp-T What's a Dremel?

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    good idea lol
     
  4. Mattmc91

    Mattmc91 Minimodder

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    Kill XP off, it's out-dated now.
     
  5. Ream

    Ream What's a Dremel?

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    We need to let XP die, it was great but its holding games back, but then again so are consoles.
     
  6. spikeh

    spikeh What's a Dremel?

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    IE6, and by extension XP, needs to die as soon as possible. Microsoft did something right with Windows 7 and I can't stop recommending friends/relatives to upgrade as soon as possible.
     
  7. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Die XP.. Die!!! Kill it with fire!
     
  8. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Fire is too slow of a death... lava! no wait... MAGMA! All 1300 degree Celsius of it :)
     
  9. Krazeh

    Krazeh Minimodder

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    Pfff, magma is for girls. If you wanna do it right kill it with thermite!
     
  10. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    and Intel integrated graphics

    What's your point?:eyebrow:
     
  11. DarrenH

    DarrenH What's a Dremel?

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    Daft!

    Consoles have brought gaming to people who couldn't afford a super-graphics PC, straight out of the box. Systems don't hold back gaming - bad games made for a quick buck do that!
     
  12. Ream

    Ream What's a Dremel?

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    Most games for consoles are bad and made to quickly make money, PC games lately just seem to be ports of these poorly made games. You do not need a uber gaming rig to play good quality PC games, graphics belive it or not do not make a game better.

    I know games companys are here to make money but if they make better games wont they sell more.

    Its funny when people buy laptops and complain the intergrated graphics can not play games properly,
     
  13. Tulatin

    Tulatin The Froggy Poster

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    Windows 7 laptops are running just as quick as XP ones would. The only reason it would seem "Slower" is the same reason Vista garnered a lot of it's negative reputation - people are loading it on the bare minimum of hardware, and still expecting it to fly.

    Speaking of Vista, though I don't miss it now that I've gone from 7, it's not a bad operating system. If manufacturers actually spent the time to develop and test drivers properly before release, most of the problems would have gone away.

    Other than that, the rest of it's problems are solved by putting down the people who complain that their $199 desktop which they've *Invested so much money in* is slow. Well, yes it's slow. It was never meant to run vista. It's barely meant to run XP. Oh, and it really doesn't help when that OEM shitbox has 512MB of ram, half of which is lost to the onboard video, due to the 128MB Video, WOW! sales pitch. Hell, XP doesn't even run well with 384MB, why would an advanced operating system even do better.

    But moving forward, it's a good thing XP isn't being shipped with new systems. Considering 4gb of ram is cheap as peanuts now, there's hardly a reason to offer *32 support, anyway. In terms of economics, people have a really odd way of looking at things. They would rather upgrade their old system which is "Working just fine" by spending $100 on 2GB of ram (DDR is expensive now, you know), $75 on a new hard drive, and $149 on a copy of Windows 7. My question there is why. For those $325, you can get an entry level desktop which absolutely blows away the performance of the 7 year old, single core machine that holds up a corner of your desk.

    Really when it comes to it, 5 years is a long time in terms of computers. 5 years ago, the idea of two cores on a die was unthinkable, 4GB of ram was far into excessive, hard drives were tiny and videocards were... simple. In another 5 years, we'll be having this same discussion, laughing at people still tethered to Windows 7, while we peruse through our 128TB hard drives wondering how we ever did things in the dark ages.
     
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  14. Coltch

    Coltch Minimodder

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    I agree that XP needs to go away (wish my company thought the same!:wallbash: ), Win 7 runs fine even on older kit that Vista laughed at - my old Sempron laptop ran Win 7 RC, XP, Debian & Fedora just fine with less than 1GB of RAM, running Fedora at the moment as I can't justify the price of putting Win 7 on such an old machine.
     
  15. G0UDG

    G0UDG helping others costs nothing

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    I have to agree with kraz if your gonna kill XP do it in style the right way with Thermite just light the blue touch paper and run :lol:
     
  16. fluxtatic

    fluxtatic What's a Dremel?

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    I was very resistant to 7. After spending as much time as I have tuning and locking down XP, I hated the idea of starting over. Now, though, after playing with 7 a bit on one of the new machines at work, I've got a copy of 7 Ultimate on my desk.

    As to it's weak spots - backdoors and virus problems? My home desktop hasn't gotten infected since 1996. That is to say, I've never gotten infected on XP (my wife's laptop is a different story...) Two days for updates? Pull them down once, make a slipstreamed disc, and reinstalling takes an hour (including the common software, if you want) (now someone tell the sysadmin at work that - a guy who's 'too busy' to offer proper desktop support, yet sits and watches for two hours or better while he re/installs XP [we've still got some Win2K dinosaurs]...because he doesn't understand slipstreaming, and doesn't understand that a T1 really can't take that kind of traffic while there are 40 other people using it...)

    All that said, what finally tore it was XP's memory management problems. I've got 2GB, and I'm rarely close to running out, yet here's XP, shuffling things on and off the page file all the time. Going to 4GB seems stupid until I'm running 64-bit, so finally I broke down and got 7. Although I did manage to put off doing anything with it this entire holiday weekend.

    I'm wondering if I'll still be able to use BartPE as a rescue disc, though.
     
  17. Tangster

    Tangster Butt-kicking for goodness!

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    Yeah. I wish they would go back to being simple, by which I mean the high end cards stop growing 1/2 inch each generation.
     

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