Kill those bugs

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  1. Henchman:crg

    Henchman:crg What's a Dremel?

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    Scientistcs have created a simple liquid that kills bactieria and viruses, but could actually be good for animals and humans :D

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  2. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Sometimes science just kicks ass. :hip:
     
  3. advance

    advance What's a Dremel?

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    In this case, bug ass.

    Now they need a non stanky bug repellant!
     
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    kickarse What's a Dremel?

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    that is awesome...
     
  5. DeX

    DeX Mube Codder

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    They just need to pipe this through our shower and we might not have a colony of mushrooms growing in there :lol:
     
  6. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    I see an absolute MRSA killer here... Just hose down the wards and wash the bedlinnen in that stuff, and you're sorted. :thumb:
     
  7. ciaran.mooney

    ciaran.mooney Minimodder

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    Science Triumphs again. This is why I want to do chemistry, imagine being part of the team that developed that. Damn cool.

    (I am quite possibly the biggest geek on the planet. And loving it)
     
  8. jc.com

    jc.com What's a Dremel?

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    As far as I can see, having just read their patent, this is just a glorified method of making dilute hypochlorite solution. There may be something clever about the technique they used that warrants the patent, but the product doesn't seem to be the miracle that is suggested. The antiseptic properties of hypochlorite are not new. The mumbo-jumbo this is wrapped up in is.
     
  9. Bogomip

    Bogomip ... Yo Momma

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    im inclined to agree.

    I mean it sound sgreat, but wheres the news ? Something that really could get rid of MRSA would be pasted all over the big news sites like the BBC. But looking, I can't find it at all! I think this has been hyped up to be something it isnt!
     
  10. Henchman:crg

    Henchman:crg What's a Dremel?

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    Of course, they did say this was a easy and cheap solution, bet they charge loads of money to the national health (i.e. the tax payer) for it :waah:

    How hard can it be to mix water and salt :confused:
     
  11. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    I'm not sure that it has been presented in any other way. but finding a way to extend the shelf life of a useful but unstable product from a few hours to about a year seems to warrant a patent to me.

    ...and we all know that if it isn't in the news, it didn't happen... :D Actually the product has already hit FDA (US) and CE (Europe) approval as a commercial product for wound care, and is undergoing further clinical trials. Let's wait and see.

    A lorrydriver developed some protective desinfectant hand cream in his garden shed about a year ago. The beauty was that it didn't wash/wear off easily, so you could rub it on your hands and they would remain coated in a desinfectant barier for some time. It is trialled at hospital sites in Birmingham and regarded as the Next Big Thing in clinical hygiene management, but that did not make it beyond the local news either...
     
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    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    It's not the price companies charge, it's the woefully stupid bureaucracy of the NHS that is costing us money. The NHS has awesome purchasing power, but they don't even employ a buyer to negotiate the best deals with companies. To order a £10,-- book you incur £15,-- administration charges, to put a sink on the wall involves six (yes, 6) people: plumber, two Estates managers (one for insurance side of things, I believe), architect (I kid you not), contractor, bugdets manager. Each gets a say in exactly what type of sink should be put on the wall --but not the ward staff and patients who actually have to use it.

    I could tell you stories about how £3000,-- a year was spent on some little catheter items for a ward, until the unit manager decided (quite against the rules) to bundle his purchasing power with three other wards and put the contract out to the cheapest bidder. He saved £2500,-- for his ward alone.

    Obviously very hard, if you want it to do something else besides being a mere saline solution. ;)
     
  13. Henchman:crg

    Henchman:crg What's a Dremel?

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    Why, are you suggesting scrapping NHS and going totally private?

    Try living in America for a while (as I did for 18 months), before you give an answer.

    Nahh, go on, I want to hear your answer. :D
     
  14. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    That would be like nuking a city because you don't like it's inefficient public transport system. :)

    I am suggesting that instead of nagging its employees to turn of the lights every time they leave the room (which actually ups the electricity consumption --they're mostly fluorescents which take more juice just to start up than to stay on for six hours) or giving them crappy chairs to sit on which then leads to costly sick-leave due to back problems, or cutting down on stationery which then does not allow staff to keep proper clinical documentation, the DoH could stretch its brain a little around the concept of sensible and efficient purchasing. It's not hard. Every household has to do it.
     
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    Henchman:crg What's a Dremel?

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    Hang on, every household goes out and buys junk to fill up there homes, just to make them feel better (well, until they have so much debt, the shopping spree ends, and we get an economic slowdown)

    Maybe the NHS needs more junk :hehe:
     
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    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    The NHS got it. :hehe:
     
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    jc.com What's a Dremel?

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    Sodium hypochlorite is fairly stable already. if the issue is over the stablility at high dilution, then that may be worthy of a patent, though I can't see that it's offering anything over and above Domestos.

    Another new idea (not).
     
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    webbyman Hax.

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    my crappy gcse biology book must be a little wrong now :duh: :hehe:

    i might mention it with a * at the bottom about how it's changed now, if i get the question

    edit: reading the news article more it also backs the characteristics of antibiotics :hehe:
     
  19. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Can you drink Domestos? Can you apply it to skin burns? Can you use it without worrying about harm to human tissue?

    The difference, as always, is that he made it work.
     
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    alexander graham bell.

    come on, inventing something isn't even half the challenge, its marketing it!

    I like this idea, i mean, think what they could do with it, automated cleaning system, very fine mist (if they could get it as fine as the new sabutamol inhailer) it would be staggering, just close the door, wet the room, let it dry.

    hell could even make rooms water tight, hose em down!
     

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