Networks KILLERNIC!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by DougEdey, 13 Jul 2006.

  1. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    If they get the price right, and maybe make a PCI-e version, this could be a big hitter - if only to have a few programs running on it, like Bit-torrent (as suggested).

    Waiting with baited breath tbh.
     
  2. Glider

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    If you run Bittorrent on the card, it doesn't matter what bus it is on (PCI or PCIe), because the data won't even get to the bus... It just stays on the card, via the USB, to the hard drive
     
  3. Guest-16

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    Hardocp has a preview and it actually looks really good but mighty excessive. It overrides windows networking stack and has an embedded linux you can install and run applications to that will run without the need for talking to your "windows" CPU. Among other things, it looks very clever.
     
  4. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    It is basically another PC really on a PCI BUS. But I would prefer to see a PCI-E slot on it as it will help for futureproofing.

    I have yet to see a mobo with PCI-E and more then two PCI slots (which would normally be used for Soundcard and TV-IN)
     
  5. Guest-16

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    M2N32-SLI has 3 on some versions.
     
  6. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    My K8WE has 4, but two are lost to the PCIe and the remaining two are PCI-X rather than "pure" PCI. Hardly a mainstram boatd though :naughty:

    EDIT: Dind't we just have exactly this discussion on the last page? :worried:
     
  7. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Ok, I stand corrected, but I still think that more cards in general need to come with a PCI-E interface.

    It'll make things easier in the long run. I wouldn't mind paying a reasonable (£10) premium to get PCI-E.
     
  8. specofdust

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    So I could shave 20ms off my ping? Oh how utterly useless!

    This thing obviously has a hell of a lot of potential, if it can indeed run things like custom designed AV software on it's own CPU, then I'm sure lots of nix geeks will code programs and basicly get this thing to take over as much networking responsability as can be taken by the unit, but untill that happens, basicly what this thing is doing is taking an average ping of 67 or whatever and lowering it to 45 or whatever. Really, 2/100ths of a second aren't going to make a big difference to humans who have reaction times of a few hundred milliseconds anyway(I just measured my own at an average of about 250, but I have a niggling feeling that the average is generally higher).
     
  9. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Chicken and egg though. No one wants to make the cards until Mobos have more than two slots, and no one wants to make a mobo with slots that no one has cards for. That said, I think the mobo makers should lead it since they already have the parts in stock and adding a third PCIe slot wouldn't be that hard. I just wish it was reverse compatible like PCI and PCI-X
     
  10. specofdust

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    Can't we just dump the POS that is PCI. I'm perfectly willing to not have PCI-E 1x slots, and I'm perfectly willing not to have PCI slots, but I don't want to have a stupid mix of the two. I reckon we should just move over to 2 8x PCI-E's and then the 3-4 4x PCI-E slots on each mobo, since 1x seems fairly useless. What we have now is a mess.
     
  11. Glider

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    PCIe X1 is still faster than PCI right? Why would PCIe X1 be useless then?
     
  12. specofdust

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    Not many cards seem to use it. I have 1 PCI-E 8x card in my system, I'm about to get a 4x, I've not seen a single 1x card out there. Yes it's superior to PCI(250MB/s instead of 133MB/s) and it's not shared bandwidth either(PCI really sucked ass), but it stills seems to be ignored. Less intensive cards are using PCI and more intensive cards are usingn PCI-E 4x. This is really something that could do with being addressed by 07, because the current configuration of maybe 5 slots, most of the obscured by each other, with the PCI-E 1x ones mostly useless, is annoying the hell outta me.
     
  13. Glider

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    I still don't see your point... PCIe X1 is more then sufficient for most cards (there are exceptions like RAID & graphic cards). Why allocate more resources then needed? Seems like a waste.

    I agree that the card manufacturers should make the switch to PCIe tough... But I don't agree on the uselessness of X1
     
  14. specofdust

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    PCI-E in theory is usefull, but untill card manufacturers start actually making PCI-E cards then it is useless. It's perfect for stuff like Gigabit ethernet and sound cards, but I can't think I've seen any PCI-E gigabit ethernet cards around, and even the most popular gamers sound card, the X-Fi is still PCI IIRC.
     
  15. Glider

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    Well, blame the card manufactureres, not the PCIe "system"...
     
  16. ch424

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    Obviously tech standards are useless until manufacturers adopt it. :rolleyes:

    What really annoys me is that onboard GbE chips now use 1x PCIe, yet there are hardly any cards on the market. Also, there's no software difference: PCIe is only different to PCI on levels 0 and 1.

    ch424
     
  17. JADS

    JADS Et arma et verba vulnerant

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    Yeah but look at the ****ing heat sink, heck if you don't win you could always rip it out of your case and stab the mother****ing ******* that fragged you... :rock:

    As an extremely expensive networking card it is a mite pointless to say the least*, but as a second mini silent Linux computer with a USB port it is an entirely more interesting proposition!

    * I say that when you can get £470 memory kits, £700 CPUs, £1000 graphics card combos, £30 lighted mousemats, £250 physics processors, £750 blu-ray recorders...
     
  18. LAGMonkey

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    Agreed. As a stand alone NIC its a bit OTT and VERY expencive but as a NIX PC its got a hell of a lot of potential.
    Nice HS tho :D
     
  19. slagman

    slagman What's a Dremel?

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    Go to newegg the people who purchased it are all happy with it
    :clap:
     
  20. specofdust

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    Perhaps they have no particular reason to be unhappy with it. To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure I'd trust the review of someone who actually bought this thing anyway :eek:
     
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