Linux Kubuntu vs. ubuntu

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  1. simon w

    simon w What's a Dremel?

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  2. JuMpErFLY

    JuMpErFLY Minimodder

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    I prefer my way of shell scripts via a file manager ;)

    On another note, after a very long hunt for a decent file manager that doesn't want to install 50mb worth of dependencies/libraries, I gave Thunar a try today and am very impressed. You wouldn't think it's so hard to find a file manager capable of supporting drag & drop, single click directory entering and not showing stupidly big icons next to directories. A tabbed feature would be nice though!
     
  3. simon w

    simon w What's a Dremel?

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    I've been using thunar since Xfce 4.4 beta made it to Debian Etch/Testing - it does make a refreshing change from KDE's and Gnome's solutions :)
     
  4. Arkuden

    Arkuden mow?

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    ozstriker: Thanks for the link. That cleared a few things up. Im assuming programs like amsn and amaroK and others listed above I will have to download the packages for off their respective websites or are they available in the package managers? Ive started getting used to synaptics and adept for gnome and kde and things are getting a little easier. Its been a few years since my linux class and ive forgotten nearly everything.

    Ive managed to install both gnome and kde to play with so sooner or later i will come to like one more than the other. Can i use other desktops for ubuntu that gnome or is that the whole point of ubuntu? It seems everyone has a favorite, Im basicly looking for the easiest transition from windows that will still allow me to get my hands dirty on the command line if need be.

    The file structures have the be the hardest thing to get used to. After years of My Computer/ My Docs im not sure what some of these folders are for, where i need to go or what I am safe playing with... (is this what if feels like to be an old person on a computer for the first time?) I have to admit it can be pretty confusing with all the folders there and not knowing which ones are good for storage and so fourth. Anyone know any good places that give a solid break down of the file structures or organizion that a beginner can understand?

    OneSeventeen: Do i need to download amaroK from the website? The screenies look pretty good to me. Ive never really used MySQL so ive never understood what it is for or why i would need it, but ive got about 5,900 song files so should i look into it?

    JuMpErFlY: That file manager might be just what im looking for to start getting a grasp on the file system and structures of linux, thanks for the heads-up

    Hopefully in the next few days I can play with some of these other programs. Any other advice is more than welcome. If anyone has any idea on how to get a Trendnet TEW-424ub Rev. 2.0 Wireless USB adapter to work in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS can have my first child as a 40 foot patch cable across my house is not my cup o' tea :D
     
  5. ozstrike

    ozstrike yip yip yip yip

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    A lot of the programs will be in the "universe" repositories. You need to enable them first before you can use them.
    You can use either Gnome, or KDE on Ubuntu. You can have both of them installed, and switch, or just one. It doesn't make much difference. It will take up a bit more space than just one, though. Technically, Ubuntu with KDE would be Kubuntu, but that's just being pedantic :p
     
  6. Glider

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    You can use every windows manager on Ubuntu, there are even people who run, the best ;), fluxbox :)

    About the filestructure... It's quite easy... You'll learn as you go... Just see the whole PC as a gigantic C drive, but for easyness you forget to type c: at the beginning of every line... And the safe dir is your homedir... also the dir where a regular user has full rights (I hope you're not logging on as root)

    You wanted to get down and dirty on the CLI, well, here's one for you, "apt-chace search <package>" (not 100% sure on the name, type: "apt-c <tab>") that will search the repositories and tell you if there's an package for you...

    and about the wireless... This might help you lose a son ;) and if that won't this will surely do (it's for ubuntu too ;))
     
  7. Arkuden

    Arkuden mow?

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    Is there somewhere that i can see screenshots of these managers and get a feel for what i might like to try?


    The first article is for rev. 1 of my adapter and the second article ive gone through several times. Its based on ubuntu 5.10 but i followed it as closely as possible and I get an error when doing the command:

    sudo ndiswrapper -i SiS163u.INF
    - driver already installed

    When I do the switch -l to view it is says invalid driver and the -e switch to remove it says no driver installed. Im at a stand point really, but ill play with it some more. Thanks!
     
  8. Uncle Psychosis

    Uncle Psychosis Classically Trained

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  9. OneSeventeen

    OneSeventeen Oooh Shiny!

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    To install amaroK, I went to "Applications">"Add/Remove...", then clicked on Sound & Video on the left.

    amarok is the top item at the moment (when I don't have unsupported/commercial applications checked). Just check the box next to amaroK and click OK.

    For MySQL, you just have to go to synaptic, and search for MySQL server. (mysql-server-5.0 is what I've got as the default)

    After that is installed, I usually just add a user named "amarok" with some easy-to-remember password, then create a database called "amarok" for that user. For me, I *think* I just opened up the terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) then logged into the mysql server I just installed:
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    mysql --user=root mysql
    For the following commands, watch out for semi-colons. Those close the command, if you don't give it a semi-colon, you'll just enter down to the next line. If it does that, just add the semi-colon on whatever line you are on and hit enter.

    Then created the amarok database:
    Code:
    mysql>CREATE DATABASE amarok;
    Then created the amarok user (change some_password to whatever you want the password to be):
    Code:
    mysql>GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON amarok.* to 'amarok'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'some_password';
    Then, just quit the mysql prompt:
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    mysql> \q
    And you are done, you now have a database called amarok, owned by the user amarok!

    Now, just go to Applications>Sound & Video>amaroK and follow the on-screen instructions.

    When you choose the database, choose "MySQL" instead of "SQLite", and the server will be localhost, the user is amarok, the database is amarok, and the password is whatever you set it to be.

    I hope that helps!
     
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