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Windows Lag driving me insane! What's my bottleneck?

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by smoguzbenjamin, 3 May 2005.

  1. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    Hey all,

    I'm running an AMD64 s754 2800+, 1GB pc3200, and a 6600GT, and on every game I can play full detail no problem, but there's an ever so slight lag-problem in every game I play. It's not so bad on some games like HL-2 but in GTA Vice City I get lag every so many seconds that it's annoying. It might only be a few milliseconds of lag but it's disturbing my gaming experience and it's a pain. I know my GPU is fine, but I'm wondering if s754 might be my undoing. Or do I just want a faster CPU?

    Thanks in advance :D
     
  2. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    Sounds like it might be a driver issue. Try grabbing the latest drivers for your hardware (chipset/sound/gfx/etc..) and give that a go.
     
  3. automagsrock

    automagsrock What's a Dremel?

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    Do the above first, but yeah it sounds like the s754 may be giving you greif.
     
  4. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    I'm running the latest nForce drivers, and forceware 71.84, as 71.89 was crashing EXPERTool. I have a 6600GT with a really noisy fan so I need expertool to keep the noise acceptable. So far both Forceware drivers have the same problem. However, playing SWAT 4 showed no problems today. Bugger, sounds like I'll have to get a 2nd hand CRT (and thus no TFT) and get a 939 board. :(


    edit: Double bugger, 939 is expensive! It'll cost me at least 250 euros for the mobo and proc alone! :waah: Looks like I'm stuck on 754 then.
     
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  5. tk421

    tk421 Idiot.

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    this sounds like a memory access problem -

    fire up the task manager, and shut down EVERYTHING that you can (except for explorer.exe and the svchost's) - especially virus scanners, hardware monitors, anything that accesses memory or the hard drive regularly.
    make sure DMA is enabled.
    do a full spybot and adaware scan.
    if you arent using it, turn off steam.
    for gta:vc, make sure vsynch is on. turn on the frame limiter in the video options. anything over 30fps in a gta game takes away from the overall feel.

    oh ya, disk cleanup and defrag. regularly.

    i run VC at 1280x768@32 and get a butter-smoth 30fps, no lags (except when entering/exiting buildings) on a xp 3000+ with 2x512mb corsair value and a 9600 pro with 6xfsaa and 16x aniso turned on.
     
  6. dead_man

    dead_man Confucious say: WTF???

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    doubt its the CPU causing you greif, iv got my 2.8 celeron with a 9200se playing it with no problems. the 754 is easily enuff to run the game.

    either driver issue or accessing the game files
     
  7. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    Hmm. This is a 3-week-old windows install I'm running off, I formatted the disk before that. I'll give defragging a try. However, It's now 1:30PM and I just got up so I'm gonna eat some breakfast first :D

    Oh and one thing: :worried: What's DMA and how do I turn it on?
     
  8. lcdguy

    lcdguy Minimodder

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    DMA = Direct Memory Access

    Basically allows the computer component direct access to the memory without going through the Processor.

    It could be drivers, i doub't it's your hardware as i have a very similar setup. The other thing you could to is try decresing your draw distance ro checking for any incompatabilityies between the geforce 6 series and vice city.

    You can normally set DMA functions either through the system item in control panel or through your motherboards bios settings. Also i would check to make sure your, crap i can't remember but it involves your videocard, in the bios to the same size as your videocard unless it is a 64mb card then set it to double.
     
  9. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    My AGP aperture is 128 MB, I'll take a look at those BIOS settings in a sec.... I'm copying some big files right now. I'll post (no pun intended :D ) back when I know more
     
  10. lcdguy

    lcdguy Minimodder

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    k, and thanks for removing that brain fart i had, burning AGP Aperture into brain, crap now i don't know engrish.
     
  11. Clarkey

    Clarkey What's a Dremel?

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    I cant see it being your s754 setup, ive got a similar setup only with a barton mobile and I never have any problems. Sounds like drivers to me.
     
  12. Henchman:crg

    Henchman:crg What's a Dremel?

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    Have you tried 64MB? I have seen this make a difference on some systems.
    Strange as that seems :confused:
     
  13. ouija

    ouija Trust me, I am doctor!

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    I was getting some seriously low framerates with the latest drivers and my 6600GT. I installed a slightly older version, I think 66.xx. Give that a go.
     
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  14. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    Hmm. I'm using one forceware revision back (71.84) so expertool works properly... And my games used to run fine with these drivers... EDIT: I think you meant forceware, you're talking about the videocard drivers right? Cos my mobo drivers are version 5.10 :)

    I checked DMA and ran a speed test, I'm running my hdd at UDMA 133 (as it should be) but the speed test revealed my harddisk's a liar :blah: Burst is max around 107MB/s and sustained is no higher than 58MB/s. Bummer :p
     
  15. ouija

    ouija Trust me, I am doctor!

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    Don't delete the old ones when you update, keep the installers :)

    I have tonnes of older versions, want me to send you v66.93? Add me to MSN and I can send it over.
     
  16. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    I added ya, I hope this works :)
     
  17. c.cam108

    c.cam108 Minimodder

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    HDDs are like that. The external bus speed is usually nothing like the speed that the drive can read the platters at.

    It's all just a marketing scam, show the big flashy numbers and hide the bottlenecks.

    What drive is it you're using?

    _C
     
  18. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    Wait a minute, wasn't there that problem for loads of people with the GTA engine before? I could've sworn i heard about a few people having problems with massive slices of lag every few seconds when they were playing GTA3. Maybe it's resurfaced with VC?
     
  19. smoguzbenjamin

    smoguzbenjamin "That guy"

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    I'm using a Maxtor Diamondmax 9, 80GB version. And it's getting full :p

    Krikkit, I haven't noticed the lag before, maybe it was there all along and I've got more demanding since the purchase of my 6600GT
     
  20. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    If it's really full (i.e. less than 15% space free) that might be the problem. Try backing some stuff up. Also, there was a fix for some people (can't remember whether it was for GTA or GTA:VC) whereupon if you copied the music folder to the game folder on the HD, it didn't lag as much when you got in and out of cars. Might be worth a go (or a google).
     
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