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Discussion in 'General' started by RTT, 29 Oct 2007.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    If your car is fitted with airbags and the system shows an airbag fault, that's an instant MOT fail. If your car is fitted with airbags and they aren't working - whether through a fault or because you disabled them - then it invalidates your insurance, because your premium is based on the car having airbags and them being available to deploy in the event of an accident.

    Basically: don't disable your airbags, and if you do disable your airbags make sure you've reprogrammed the ECU not to show an error and told your insurance company what you've done.
     
  2. Almightyrastus

    Almightyrastus Rule #9

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    Taking out one airbag will not normally disable the whole system provided that you can trick the ECU into thinking that everything is all cool and funky. When people replace the Yaris seats they just drop a resistor in the side airbag plug and that takes care of the dash light and system disable. I should imagine that most would be the same.

    As for the legality, as far as I know, you don't need to have them, even if they were installed as standard.
     
  3. Vault-Tec

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    I know in the U.S that they are not a legal requirement. My ex girlfriend's bags went off when she rear ended some one and she could not afford to replace them and it was legal.

    I know that in Ohio at least it doesn't matter.

    However, over the past couple of years we have adopted laws from Germany and so on. So now if there is any ECU fault showing whatsoever it is an instant MOT fail. I know this because apparently the steering lock on our Mini (BMW, '08) was showing as faulty with a red sign. However, you could clearly engage and disengage it when putting the key in (you can literally hear it whirr into place).

    None of that mattered though. It still failed and cost us nearly a grand to get it replaced. Oddly enough you can't buy them off the shelf and because our Mini is kinda weird on that year (uses odd parts) I could not find one used.

    But yeah, AFAIK even an empty wiper fluid warning light is an MOT fail now.
     
  4. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    An empty washer bottle has always been an MOT fail, at least for the 25 years that I've been driving.
     
  5. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    If the airbag system shows a fault, you'll fail.

    If the airbag system indicator bulb is missing/broken/doesn't illuminate during the gauge diag, you'll fail.

    If you properly install an after market wheel, or seats, and appropriately explain it to the airbag system via resistors, then you're all dandy.

    Also, you'd be mental to modify your car and not tell your insurance people.
     
  6. B1GBUD

    B1GBUD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Accidentally Funny

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    I've modded most of my cars, pretty basic stuff like a K&N air filter or induction kit. Never informed my insurer either.... yes the law may state it but in reality, it's hardly checked/enforced.
     
  7. Gareth Halfacree

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    Which is all fine, until you're in a serious accident and the insurer inspects the wreckage. Then it's bye-bye insurance, hello personal liability.
     
  8. goldstar0011

    goldstar0011 Well-Known Member

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    Don't have to declare a K&N filter, just like won't declare you're using a better brand of brake pads and discs. An actual induction kit you do, what's the likely hood they'll pull you on that after an accident.....small? maybe. Worth the risk........... up to you.

    Personally, I have done things and not said anything, in hindsight I ask myself why did I risk it? Probably just laziness and not understanding the laws.

    If you're into modding a car you should really be looking at using insurers that cater to that
     
  9. B1GBUD

    B1GBUD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Accidentally Funny

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    One of said modified vehicles was involved in an accident, insurance assessor came and inspected the car and it wasn't even a concern. The car was written off by the insurer due to being uneconomical to repair without so much as a quibble.

    I may have been lucky, but an air filter is hardly going to give me an extra 100BHP, probably not even 10BHP.
     
  10. Gareth Halfacree

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    Aftermarket air filter wouldn't require notification, like goldstar says, but an induction kit would. Personally, I'd weigh it up like this: if there's an accident (X% chance) do I want to be personally liable for all costs for both parties (Y% chance) just to save £Z on my insurance by not telling the insurers that I've modded the car?
     
  11. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Tbh, it's all entirely up to the insurer.

    My daily driver insurance company had a hissy fit about a dash cam.

    My RS insurer didn't bat an eyelid when I said I'd ripped out the PAS lines and replaced them with braided hose (..Yes, with the correct PSI tolerances, plus a bit actually), likewise, don't seem fussed about the steering wheel situation, nor the BMW seats.

    Best just to tell them, that way you've covered your arse.
     
  12. LennyRhys

    LennyRhys Oink!

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    I won't have all this kit until the end of the week at the soonest, but here it is - the first time I've bough all new components since 2007 when I built my first Intel rig:

    MSI X99A Raider £169
    32GB Crucial DDR4 2400MHz £141
    i7 5820K £335

    Total £645

    Not top shelf bells and whistles X99 kit by any means, but the perfect base for my workstation build.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. bawjaws

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    Yeah, it's not so much whether they care or not about what you've done, but they certainly do care if you don't tell them :) Ts & Cs almost always state that you must inform them of any modifications that you make in order for your cover to remain valid - regardless of whether or not such mods may impact your cover.

    Goes without saying that specialist insurers are generally far more relaxed about mods, but they still normally want to know about them :)
     
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  15. Vault-Tec

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    I've never driven in the UK dude so don't be too hard on me :D

    But yeah, last I checked we had adopted some euro rules and now any warning light is a fail.

    Tis my wife's car see, I just do all the work :D

    Oh yeah this little beauty came up on the bay earlier so I nabbed it for my build.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Parge

    Parge the worst Super Moderator

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    Aww, look at it! How cute!

    Looks very fat, is that triple-slot or double? Hard to tell from that picture.
     
  18. smc8788

    smc8788 ...at least I have chicken

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    Two screw mounts so will be double slot, it's just very short so looks fatter.
     
  19. bawjaws

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    Yeah, the bracket is obviously double-height, but it looks as if the fan protrudes above the top edge of the bracket, and the heatsink/fan combo looks pretty tall too. As I said, though, it may just be the photo giving the illusion that it's fatter than it actually is.
     
  20. mrbungle

    mrbungle Undercooked chicken giver

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    Sure is a chubby little thing.

    Do like it though, very quick cards for the size!
     

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