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Pre ordered Oculus Quest 2 64GB - Seems good for travelling, and PCVR.



Unbias review from Tyriel Wood. Who is an excellent Youtuber that says it how it is. (From previous experience when buying other HMD's like the Samung Oddyssy plus, Rift S and HP Reverb.)

 

The SPD pedal system is the best development Shimano ever made.

 

Least you had a decent rubber heel pad! I just have a pair of little slivers of rubber on the back

Yeah, on my god know what number of set of cleats. That said the shoes themselves are so nice to wear, I use Giro empires with the SPD-SL's hence the Privateers as they are effectively the same just no EC90 carbon sole. An with the new ones I can happily walk anywhere at least.

 

Shearwater Teric

 

Awesome ! I hated my Microsoft natural keyboard when I first got it. I was like "WTF is this?!?!" then it fell into place.

And then, when I was hooked on it it broke and no one else made anything like it at the time *sigh*.

 

Ok... I get the ergonomic layout, cool with that... but not the key positions!

I wish you the best of luck with it, you're a braver man than I am!

 

"Super" and "Fun" keys ... that's a very special keyboard !

 

I'm assuming: 'Super' = Windows key, 'Fun' = Function (aka Fn).

 

Don't you dare go spoiling this for me now Mr C !

 

Thought I would grab an X570 board before they all sell out ready for a 5900x if I can grab one on the Nov 5th. (There was over 10 of these available last night, and now I just grabbed the last one).

Choose this motherboard, as it has the Bios flashback feature, to update the bios without the need of a CPU etc.

 

I've jumped the gun and gone for a x570 Strix F - not as premium as your board, but I got a nice wireless card for free with it .. only worrying thing is a few reports I've seen suggesting that the chipset fan stays on with it. Well, we'll see.

Anyway, why the liquid metal TIM ? You got more crazy plans like that laptop ?

 

Nice one! - Yeah, I went with the "E" version as it comes with Wifi, and includes the latest Wifi 6. Other than that, it is no different to the one you got.

As for the chipset fan, I guess we will find out if that is the case. Also might of been an issue with a different revision, or just a Bios update fixed it.

Liquid metal TIM will be used on the CPU and GPU, whether I delid the CPU will depend on how good the soldering is. But either way, it will be used between the heat spreader and waterblock.

 

I don't know about Ryzen 3, but that RAM probably won't work with Ryzen. Your memory speed is limited to the IF clock and that RAM goes far beyond that. I made the same mistake buying 4133, you set XMP and the rig crashes. They used 3600 in the demo (didn't specify timings) but I would imagine the IFCLK is still going to absolutely max out around 1830 or so meaning the fastest you will get that RAM to operate is 3650. Of course you can lower the timings, but it won't work with faster RAM.

You can't use liquid metal on the heat spreader. Not as it sits. It will glue the block to the IHS. You will either need to sand it back and hope it's copper underneath, or put on a copper heat spreader. Liquid metal welds to aluminium. So it's a one shot deal and you can never remove the block or cooler.

 

I bought that kit not because of the high rated speed, but the fact it will be Samsung B-dies, and I would be able to dial the clocks and timing to 3733MHz C14 if I am lucky with winning the Silicon lottery, if not it will be 3600MHz C14.
(The other thing is, 4400MHz will be more appealing as a resale once DDR5 drops, and someone is looking to take advantage of a kit like this on Intel.)

I understand about Liquid metal and Alloys getting eaten. Copper is fine, but Nickel plated is better.
That said, I haven't checked what heat spreader AMD use, just assumed it was copper with a zinc or nickel plating coating like Intel?

 

Not sure. Never sanded on mine. Timings are the key with Ryzen. I don't know if you will get 3733. I couldn't on a 3950x, which was supposed to be top BIN and thus would work at that speed. Mid 3600s seem to be the limit for many.

IIRC I got my timings down to 14 or 13 then stopped. Never tried lower. The uplift started to fall off a cliff. I would strongly doubt temps will be a huge issue. There isn't a lot of overclocking in Ryzen, and if you enable a hard PBO then it's not worthwhile. Temps are not the limiting factor, that is down to the IF. So I don't know how that will play out if the 8 core doesn't use it? gawd knows. They said they unified the cache on the 8 core (and I would assume the 6 core) but didn't mention how the 12 and 16 core models are put together. I would imagine it will involve IF, meaning the 12 and 16 core models may actually be slower for gaming.

And that may be why the 6 and 8 cores have seen a big increase in price.

Either that or when gaming it goes into some sort of "Gaming mode" like Ryzen can in RM, and disables cores so the lag is reduced. Again, no idea until it launches, but their benchmarks were using the 12 core which was a bit odd. I guess they didn't want the 10 core Intel coming close in productivity?

 

GamerNexus confirms my thoughts.

I guess this will be a lot of trial and error dialing the DRAM timings in. 3600 C14 I will be happy with.
One of the reviewers did these test with this kit on Ryzen, and here's what he says, which sounds promising.

Final update @ Feb 15, 2020 update: Zero BSOD yet and I'm tired lol but it was fun to be able to OC the RAM with much success.
My build is non RGB and primarily used for gaming + media consumption, so a short test is good enough for me. I did 30 mins Prime95 test on each speed @ respected timings in my 1st time owning a legit B Die that had everyone talking about. I would not say the price is right but quality of B Die definitely shows. I used Ryzen Dram Calculator to configure for 1 and 2 @ fast settings. Used the same timing from #2 for 3600Mhz to my surprised it worked. Total of 3+2 hours of ownership and test in 2 sittings. ZERO BSOD yet as of Feb 20, 2020 but got Prime95 errors @3800mhz so I had to loosen the timings.
1. 3200 @ 14 14 14 28 1.35v 1T
2. 3400 @ 14 14 14 28 1.35v 1T
3. 3600 @ 14 14 14 28 1.42v 1T - Best speed/timings. Ryzen master shows 1:1 Mem Clock and Fabric Clock. Very nice.
4. 3800 @ 16 16 16 42 1.45v 1T - passed Prime95 and memorytest86 - Updated Feb 20, 2020. At this speed, there is not much improvement in terms of performance but the satisfaction tho.
5.4400 @ 20 19 19 39 1.45v 1T -Mem Clock @ 2200 but Fabric Clock 1800 as expected.
PRO:
B Die, Rank 1 = fast and tight timings. Ryzen loves it. ( Own a Gskills Trident Z PC3200 4 x 8GB. I tried 2 and 4 dimms. BSOD at XMP profile and it is part of QVL).
CON:
Cost total CAD $257 isn't cheap for 16gb.

 

Cool well post a thread and let us know how it goes.