I do not own a high end PC, but I do own what I would class as a decent enough PC. I also own both current consoles. I do believe the console has its own place in the gaming market, but for me, I simply cannot play any FPS games with a controller. I have tried, and I did get better, but I gave up on it. Anything other than FPS in my personal opinion is more than good enough on console, simply because I cannot use a controller to a decent standard
If you want to play a shooter with a controller, try the ones that allow you to take a methodical approach like for example Metal Gear V, being able to line up the shot while in cover helps a lot, because in games that require proper aiming like for example Overwatch or Doom it would take you years to force yourself to not overcompensate for the absurd sluggishness, delays and unnatural acceleration of the weirdo stick.
Fair enough. GeForce experience prompts me for an update and it takes a few minutes at most. Tbh I rarely update the graphics drivers though and never have an issue.
I'm reading this thread and I'm pretty confused. No game I own doesn't update automatically via Steam or doesn't need an update. Windows updates itself. Until a week ago my PC has run flawlessly for three years, as an i7 2600, with just one graphics card upgrade and that was to a second hand R9 380 4gb. And last week I upgraded to an i7 4790k secondhand. So far that's flawless too. I'm spending less than the cost of a console over four years on PC upgrades and I'm playing at 1080 ultra wide. There is no need to upgrade to the latest and greatest CPU except to waste money because they're only a tiny fraction faster. Better to get a GPU. Just buy mid range or last gen when next comes out. A RX580 is just £220 now that Vega is out. Bargain.
There are very few FPS games that I'm even remotely interested in. The only two that spring to mind are Prey and Far Cry 5. Most of the games I tend to play these days are more the 3rd person variety or as Anfield mentioned the more methodical approach style games. These tend to work much better with controllers and while I am a keyboard and mouse guy I do often use a controller for certain games on the PC so it wouldn't be a problem overall. As for updates I can sort of see how this is a small plus to the console side of things as it is just one update for the console and one for the game. However I've always had more problems with hardware rather than software. I tend to go for the more graphically demanding titles and I recently moved to a "decent" 4K monitor so a higher end GPUs are kind of a requirement. I guess an option might be a lower end PC with a decent console as well though for certain titles.
That’s probably where the difference is, I am typically running two or three gpus pushing the image on to a big screen, so the latest drivers and figuring out which profiles work best for a game is one of the steps to playing something on the PC, that’ll be the where I probably end up jonesing for the next gpu update like a crack whore looking for the next fix. It’s the point of the PC for gaming IMO, to do what the consoles can't, if you are not going for the best experience you may as well use a console, that said some games seems a better fit for console hooked up to a massive screen like Tomb raider etc.
I play overwatch and with the exception of shadows which kill it and I universally turn off anyway, it keeps up perfectly. Granted it's not 4K but it's 2160x1080 at 25". I don't have room for anything bigger either way so works for me.
I gave up on PC gaming back in circa 2011 as at the time I was doing most of my gaming on the Xbox 360 and I had my eye on an iMac primarily for photo editing on that lovely 27" screen. At the time I wasn't doing much PC gaming anyway so felt like I wasn't missing much. Ironically once I had the iMac I started to game on it (and Steam) more than I did when I had my gaming PC. Also as time went on I picked up some games that would benefit from more gaming grunt (Elite, Kerbal, Xcom, etc) and am now in a position where I'm considering going back to PC.
Well, if you are contend with the lowest quality, i.e. console graphics, you don't need to mess around with video quality settings at all. Not trying to troll, but that's how it is. I for one could never switch to console due to the lack of choice in input devices. Mouse+keyboard, controller, retro gaming sticks, let me choose the best tool for the job. Also the online service is incredibly expensive for the Xbone, and I hate the PS4 controllers with a passion. By the way, what are you guys doing to your computers that you need to mess around with drivers and settings all the time? My system has been running for several years now. Most games even detect graphic settings automatically. GPU drivers are only updated once or twice a year (if at all). I'll admit that Windows updates have been a bit problematic recently due to Microsoft's apparent budget decision to fire their entire QA department - but I would have to worry about the updates anyway since I need the system for other things than gaming.
Yes it was superb. Absolutely fantastic, some of the best 14 hours I have ever had. Once I figured out my little "cheat?" I was set. I could absolutely slaughter anything put in front of me lmao.
I did it 10 years ago, and wouldn't have it any other way. The graphics argument is daft IMO. Great games are still great regardless of the platform and graphical settings, and crap games are still crap. If you're getting fussy about a bit of aliasing or analysing stills between platforms, you're not playing the game. In fact, the game that drove me to consoles was Crysis. For all of it's shiny graphics, it was mediocre at best as a game.
While it is true that a **** game with good graphics is still a **** game you shouldn't forget that the PC has an effectively infinite library of games, which means we can afford to be incredibly picky and demand good graphics on top of demanding good games.
Isn't that effectively infinite library of games mostly indie titles that don't need a "gaming PC" to run though? There are exclusives on every platform, are there that many on the PC that demand a gaming PC? I can't think of any PC games in the past 10 years I had a hankering to play but was unable to. This is of course ignoring MMOs, because if you're in to those there are clearly precious few options of platform.
Heratic! Personally, because of the consoles not having a M&K I couldn't go fully to them. In the past I owned an XBox 360 which I used to game on when friends came to visit (mainly Tiger Woods golf). As we have 'matured' in life, they no longer have the inclination for this - instead we go out and get drunk. I still use the original controller in games for driving. To be honest, I couldn't see myself ever stopping from gaming on the PC. One, it's an excellent reason for me to re-build and two, I still really enjoy it (especially as I am mainly an FPS player). I have though cut back on my builds of recent; not specifically due to costs, but as you mentioned, reliability issues. I've built my fair share of watercooled SLI systems, multi screen surround etc, etc and had no end of problems because of it. I've now settled on a single GPU system and game @ 1440x2560 (one screen when gaming and two when working). It's performing perfectly and I love it.
Yeah, no doubt M&K is the precision instrument between the two, but I'd take a controller in my hands sitting on a sofa in front of a TV over a M&K in front of me on a desk with a monitor any day.
And that's why they sell so well, I have nothing against them as they do their job well, just not for me. I've tried gaming with a controller of recent (I even bought Uncharted 4 to play on my son's PS4 as it's an exclusive), I managed about 6 hours before I gave up in frustration due to that damn awful controller - I really, really, really wanted to shove it where the sun doesn't shine to the designer of it.
I have both. I play more on the console than I do the PC. Tbfh, I don't know why it's even a discussion. Do whatever feels comfortable. Although, I'd never try Doom Ultra-Nightmare on console. Six attempts to get through on PC convinced me controllers are too slow for me on that difficulty. Although Doom on console feels more .. Frantic. Perhaps the screen size difference (30" compared to 40") and slower controller makes it feel that way.
I use both. PC I like for openworld games, Skyrim, FO4, Witcher and so on. Consoles more for things like The Last of Us, Uncharted series and Tomb Raider. I have to play Tomb Raiders on the PS, I played the first one on a PS and it keeps that spark of my initial foray into consoles alive.
