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Discussion in 'Watercooling' started by Jeff Hine, 18 Sep 2019.

  1. Jeff Hine

    Jeff Hine Nothing special

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    Cpl. factors first off:
    • Most of the hardware in my current machine (see signature, below) is less than a year old.
    • I'm still in financial recovery from the above.
    At some point I would like to water-cool my PC, to add water-cooling to my skill set, if nothing else.
    So; if I want to do so with my current machine, would it be a wasted exercise, given that the hardware is barely better than mainstream...? It seems a bit OTT to custom loop just a CPU, when an AIO would do the same job, albeit that a custom loop would (probably?) do the job better.

    The main thing that I'm fairly certain I'm going to need is - given it's age/generation - a new case... the Antec P280 wasn't at the front of the queue when water cooling conference invites went out.

    I tried to start a discussion about cases, yesterday but - even by my standards - I made a complete & utter pig's ear of how I worded it.

    So; here goes for take-2... given the spec. of machine I have & adding water cooling into the mix, what case would anyone here be willing to recommend; but with as close to £100 for a budget as possible (if it even is).

    However... factor in that the whole project may take up to the next 5 years for me to get finished, so I know that there will be some reluctance to recommend a case - based on that, are there case makers that are favoured for water cooling over others, on a 'general acceptance level...?
     
  2. Jeff Hine

    Jeff Hine Nothing special

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    This thread is causing me paranoia: I genuinely can't find any source for cases that are intended for watercooling, ones with pump/res. mounting already part of the design.
    I accept that I've largely got myself to blame for being an over thinker, but that aside, is there nothing worth recommendation?
     
  3. Cheapskate

    Cheapskate Insane? or just stupid?

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    Not a case guy, but phanteks?
    If you can't find a pump mount in a case stock, there's brackets that mount to radiators for pump/res combos.
     
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    Like the look of the P400* &/or P600**... so many variants.
    *smaller than my P280
    **similar size...
     
  5. Impatience

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    Fractal Design’s Define R6 is REALLY easy for watercooling!
     
  6. Jeff Hine

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    Was looking more along the lines of an Enthoo Pro-M* - at least budget wise.
    *yes, I changed my mind from above
     
  7. Osgeld

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    Raidmax alpha series for an aged case that's got space and is pretty cheap
     
  8. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    The P600S and Evolv X from Phanteks have mounting points for pump / res combos
     
  9. Jeff Hine

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    As nice as the Evolv X is, £200 is too rich for me; I would consider stretching to a P600, if I needed to.
    Granted I have a P280 at the moment, but if I can go a tad smaller - w/o going full ITX - that'd be nice.

    Prior to the P280, I used (and still have, gathering dust) a Nine Hundred and w/ my ODD getting minimal use a 'smaller' ATX - under 250mm wide - is preferable.
     
  10. Arthur

    Arthur Comment is over there ----->

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    Drive bay reservoirs save space and no need for brackets. I am currently using two koolance rp-452x2 reservoirs in my case, one for each loop.

    Just another option :thumb:
     
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    +1
     
  12. Jeff Hine

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    What do thinner/thicker radiators add to/detract from the performance of a water cooling loop...?
     
  13. Bartacus

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    Honestly Jeff, not very much. Under *extreme* conditions, a thicker radiator with good static pressure fans will be able to dissipate more heat than a thin radiator, but that's with fans at full blast and LOTS of heat in the loop. Now if you run a loop you know is 'undersized' in terms of rad space, like running a dual GPU + CPU on a single 360 radiator, that thickness would matter more. Under normal conditions, in a 'properly' sized loop, the difference is minimal.

    Also if you're still case hunting, I have a recommendation, but I feel weird saying that since I don't have the case yet, LOL. I've been doing some research on a new case too and have been water cooling for years. I just ordered the Lian-Li O11 Dynamic XL, in white. It's a rare gem, as far as I can tell. It's not overpriced, it can hold three 360 radiators at once, the layout is genius, cable management system is genius, has 4 hot swap SATA bays for 3.5" and/or 2.5" drives, and it's sexy AF. :D Anyone who watches custom builds on YouTube is probably sick and tired of seeing that case, but you can't beat the functionality at that price point.
     

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