And still, they felt the need to rip the P180's front bezel (specially the airflow design) and looks. Understable, as it's become one of the most popular cases around, bud sad nonetheless. I know. I'm one of them. And it doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Still Lian Li no longer looks like an industry leading manufacturer to me. Besides the "high end" feeling one gets when unpacking one for the first time, they don't really bring anything to the table than Antec or Coolermaster don't already provide at half the price. And if I really, really had to get a superb looking, overpriced alu case, Silverstone has a much more interesting line nowadays (specially on HTPC cases). Antec has just made the 2 most "silent conscious" cases in the market, the P180 (, P180b, P182...) and P150 (Solo). They didn't borrowed much from Lian Li, as far as I know... I have yet to see any Lian Li case with HDD suspension, dampened panels and silent fans (and that includes their "V Silent" series). Design-wise...the Antec 180 was revolutionary (and polemic...just take a look at the original silentpcreview.com threads to see all the "looks like a fridge" trashtalk) when launched and it brought several cooling and silence solutions that no other manufacturer had included up to that point. Despite, people talk about alu cases as if that was something good on itself. News flash, it's not. It's simply a matter of choice. A lighter case, for me, it's irrelevant when talking about a desktop rig, but alu as a material is simply a hindrance for silent computing. All in all, I'm not bashing Lian Li lovers. To each their own I guess. But as a former Lian Li user, I do feel that you pay up the nose in money and features for a slightly better than average build quality and finish.