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Motherboards Likely dead motherboard, any other thoughts?

Discussion in 'Tech Support' started by SirFur, 6 Dec 2018 at 18:41.

  1. SirFur

    SirFur PC Gamer and LAzy B0nes

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    Hi all - I have a build advice thread elsewhere, this is for troubleshooting. I suspect this forum has slightly higher traffic, always used to before.

    This is my build:

    Aerocool xPredator Evil Black
    MSI GD53 MOBO equivalent - it's an old replacement when the MSI board died before
    Intel i5 2500k @ 3.30ghz
    Be Quiet Dark Rock Advanced
    2x 2TB Samsung Spinpoint F4
    Crucial M4 64GB
    Samsung Evo 512GB
    Corsair Vengence 8GB DDR3 1600
    MSI twin Frzr R9 290
    EVGA 1000w GQ Gold
    LG IPS231P x2
    Sidewinder X6
    CM Storm Sentinel Advanced
    Logitech Z-5500

    My signature was my old build before my GPU got fried, and then later on my motherboard died. I don't know exactly what it is, but it's the same chipset that would allow me to keep my DDR3/CPU, and was like £30 replacement. That was 2-3 years ago.

    I just checked the barcode, and I see it is a G-12528 Intel chipset board.

    Now. I have a computer that suddenly doesn't power up at all. The only evidence of life is the green mobo light. I shut down one night as normal, next day couldn't start. I run win 10 64 bit. I have tried jumping the start pins on the mobo in case it was case button fault, but to no avail. I do have a spare Antec 650 that I have tested but again nothing, no power at all, zilch. I reckon MOBO is dead - it was gotten second hand to prolong the life of the rest of my build, and there wasn't much else available. I don't have a spare system to check CPU or RAM, which I'd like to keep to build a spare PC - I have been out of it for so long that I just can't tell now what chipset or motherboard to get (or even if this is possible), nor how to test those parts without one.

    Some help would be nice in figuring out why this happened all of a sudden, and any assistance to check anything else to confirm or disprove my suspicions as above.
     
  2. Sentinel-R1

    Sentinel-R1 Morse Monkey

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    If your GPU got fried and you've rebuilt and now your mobo is toast, I'd be buying a new PSU at the same time as a motherboard or bundle. I wouldn't trust that unit a second longer.
     
  3. SirFur

    SirFur PC Gamer and LAzy B0nes

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    Let me explain again as I think I haven't done so properly initially - my GPU got fried when I had an Antec 650 W power supply, and I was using my original MSI board as linked in my signature. I then bought this second hand much limited board in comparison (only thing I could find) and then a short while later I replaced the Antec one with a new PSU 1000W EVGA one as above, and using the R290 GPU instead. The only old bits were the CPU and RAM. This occured 2-3 years ago.

    Now in this instance last week, I reckon the motherboard is at fault cos it was already second hand, and it's quite an old 'not very good' basic board from an old school PC it seems (from BIOS screen saver). I don't believe both power supplies are dead, as the Antec one worked with the new setup before I installed the EVGA one.

    Is there a way to see if I can salvage my current rig? Is there some 'easy' fix that I have not yet thought about doing?
    Does anyone know where I could find an old board that would be compatible with said CPU and RAM to test if they are still functional?
    Is there anything else at fault that can explain this sort of error ie PSU vs motherboard?
    Is it just old age of components (and maybe dust) that has caused this?

    Thanks again
     
  4. Sentinel-R1

    Sentinel-R1 Morse Monkey

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    Right, that's a bit clearer.

    Couple of options..
    1. Take both PSUs to a PC specialist and have them tested
    2. Buy a PSU tester from Amazon for £11 - (probably cheaper to do this)
    That rules out a faulty PSU and then you'll know for sure that the motherboard is at fault and/or if your PSU would kill the new board. If they test out OK, replace the board with one from fleabay/gumtree etc and carry on until you're in a position to upgrade everything to new architecture.

    Components get old. PCBs microscopic tracks/traces start to fail and electrical resistance increases. If one causes voltage to go out of spec, it won't boot. Not much you can do about that other than replace. It could be a surface mounted component that's failed but unless you're a whizz, good luck finding it unless it went pop and is now black and charred - and then you've got to replace it if you're handy enough. Often not worth the hassle.
     
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  5. SirFur

    SirFur PC Gamer and LAzy B0nes

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    I did this. PSU are both fine. So must be motherboard. Thanks.
     
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