Hardware Logitech MX Revolution Mouse

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 8 Feb 2007.

  1. K.I.T.T.

    K.I.T.T. Hasselhoff™ Inside

    Joined:
    1 Jan 2005
    Posts:
    624
    Likes Received:
    1
    hmmm...i thought about getting these a while back instead of getting a G7. i'm glad i chose the G7 for gaming at least i couldn't do without it!
     
  2. Orca

    Orca What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    2 Dec 2005
    Posts:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    13
    Sweet review. I've had a G7 for a while now and am pleased with it, but was thinking of getting this one. Maybe in the future perhaps with a diNovo Edge...
     
  3. Gordy

    Gordy Evil Teddy

    Joined:
    17 Apr 2001
    Posts:
    2,532
    Likes Received:
    3
    I have to say I regret buying my mx rev mouse. The battery life is terrible compared to my mx1000 the driver support for the mouse is awful. There is no drivers for vista and the xp ones need uberoptions to make the mouse even vaguely programmable.

    Only thing that stops me going back to the mx1000 is that I find it more comfortable.
     
  4. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

    Joined:
    28 Nov 2003
    Posts:
    9,696
    Likes Received:
    308
    Looking forward to that!
     
  5. LockmanX

    LockmanX What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    8 Jun 2003
    Posts:
    387
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've used one at work for some time and while I liked it as an office mouse, I'd love to see this shape in a gaming mouse. My gaming mouse is the trusty MX518. When the G5 came out with the same shape, I was ready to give it a try. I, however, very quickly noticed why I would never own a G5 (or G7 for that matter). Logitech, for whatever reason, took away the second thumb button. Ever since my MX500 years back, I've used those buttons to move forward and back in windows and on the web. It's integrated into (what others tell me is odd) control layout for gaming. I simply can't do without it.

    However, I was pleased to find that button had returned on the Revolution. With very little change at all, I think it could be a real revolution as far as gaming mice go. It has the most perfect mouse shape I have ever used and it manages that while not looking hideous. Sure style isn't amazingly important but despite how much I like my 518, I've always thought it was ugly. The thumb wheel could find a great home in gaming if you could bind it. The real crutch though is the MX's party piece, that wheel. Just like it frustrates me at the office using firefox, gaming without a button you use is very detrimental. Pressing middle mouse is hopeless. Its an easy fix though and we can keep the free spinning wheel. See, when you push down on the mouse wheel, it flops into free spin mode. However, if aren't in free spin mode and you thrash the wheel, it switches into free spin mode anyway. So why the cumbersome manual switch? Get rid of the that and give me a normal middle mouse button. Free spin will still work its wonders when you want it to and you can have a proper mouse button again. Perfect. Sell a wireless version and corded one with a G5-like weight caddy. I'd buy one as soon as it hit the shelves (if not a bit sooner)
     
  6. Vaz

    Vaz What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    23 Jan 2007
    Posts:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    It looks really great. Featurewise it's what i'd love to have. However, the price tag is too much for me. After all, it is just abit of plastic with a few wires in it.

    Whilst searching on the net I also came across 'logitech revolution vx'. I'm failing to understand what the difference between MX and VX is. If someone know's, let me know.
     
  7. tenpounds

    tenpounds Banned

    Joined:
    8 Feb 2007
    Posts:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm sorry, I find this whole thing ridiculous.

    Who here on a REGULAR basis looks at web pages/pdf/words documents with 200+ pages ?


    be realistic here...


    And as someone said, you're more likely to be using the wheel to scroll down project logs and such... which is NO WHERE near the length of 200+ pages.

    and for the length of project logs, please, it's really not that long... scroll bar would probably get you down the page just as quick... (yes yes, you do have to actually use hand eye coordination to find the scroll bar, yea it's really hard)

    As for DPI increases, I find that with my MX1000, the problem is not with DPI, it's that the conversion from static friction coefficient to kinetic friction coefficient that lowers my pointing accuracy over any DPI. aka in laymen term, moving my mouse from a stopped position to a moving one results in a jerk in the mouse... So I find DPI increases pretty stupid since the real problem with my accuracy in pointing is this jerk (an infinite DPI would not solve this problem)... You could tell me to use a mouse pad and such to lower friction... but mouse pads are so damn ugly, restrictive (student at dorm so space is important and my desk is usually crowded with sh!t excluding a gigantic mouse pad).

    So basically, everything "new" that came with this mouse in my opinion is pretty much a gimmick... I'll be sticking with my MX1000

    PS: yes I find that it's very nice looking and such, and if I had to chose between a MX1000 and the revolution, I would get the revolution... but not if it costs $100. Just not worth the extra $50 to be able to scroll down 200 pages of words 0.2ms more quickly... which incredibly, I haven't typed that much yet...nor have I ever opened up a 200+ page of words or pdf.

    Edit: document flip? if you're on vista, aren't you going to use the windows flip? personally, I find document flip another useless gimmick. I changed setpoint's middle button on the left hand side to act as the middle button to close tab simply because I've used document flip maybe twice?
     
  8. Tim S

    Tim S OG

    Joined:
    8 Nov 2001
    Posts:
    18,882
    Likes Received:
    89
    One of the PDF's I've got open right this minute is 247 pages long.
     
  9. tenpounds

    tenpounds Banned

    Joined:
    8 Feb 2007
    Posts:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    okay... so are you trying saying that use regularly open pdf''s that long?
     
  10. Lunn1

    Lunn1 What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    23 Jan 2007
    Posts:
    150
    Likes Received:
    0
    alright ive been a proud owner of the mouse for about 2-3 months, and the document flip is pretty useless im use to Alt+Tabing everything, as for the for the "hyper-scroll", trust me its well worth is, i dont use it for scrolling through hundreds of pages of documents. But it does help get to where i need to go in a hurry. i believe after you use this thing for about a week or two you'll notice the difference in how the scroll really helps.

    And as for the people who have a problem charging, Rechargable batteries dont tend to last long if you charge it every night, so turn the mouse off when your not using it, charge it when it has about 5-0% left on it. the battery should last you at least a week with hardcore gaming action.

    as for the lazer in it, yes its very very accurate. i dont have a problem with the mouse being jerky on my screen, in fact its much smoother then my last mouse. i would have to say that i have become a better gamer with the lazer mouse, not this one in particular.
     
  11. tenpounds

    tenpounds Banned

    Joined:
    8 Feb 2007
    Posts:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have no problem with the battery life of the revolution...

    nor the "lazer" in the revolution... as I've said before, the inaccuracy of my cursor movement is due mainly due to the conversion of static coefficient of friction to kinetic coefficent of friction. And as kinetic coefficient of friction is lower then the static coefficent, once I try to move my mouse, it jerks. This is NOT due to DPI, but just physics... no amount of DPI will solve this.

    You claim that I'll notice the difference of the wheel for scrolling down even normal sized documents. True, I cannot disprove you since I don't have the revolution. But can you describe when you would use hyperscrolling over normal scrolling or the "cruise scrolling" of the MX1000? I mean, a web page like bit tech...

    anyways... gotta get to class
     
  12. Tyr

    Tyr Minimodder

    Joined:
    7 Jun 2006
    Posts:
    136
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was sure it was RF, all other BT mice have been plagued by latency issues. I'd never use a BT mouse for gaming as they lag behind where you are. Logitech's RF mice have always outperformed their equivalent BT brethren. There is an MX1000 BT which came with a keyboard and it lagged badly.

    I regularly view PDFs in excess of 200 pages. Working in biotechnology, manuals and protocols tend to be very hefty and you have to get them from the manufacturer's website.

    I didn't upgrade to a G5 or G7 from my MX1000 because of the loss of thumb buttons. I use all three all the time and really appreciate them when gaming. I can have one set to VOIP chat, one ingame VOIP, grenade shortcut, etc...

    The G3 is a bit better but i can't stand using the last button with my little finger.
     
  13. Techno-Dann

    Techno-Dann Disgruntled kumquat

    Joined:
    22 Jan 2005
    Posts:
    1,672
    Likes Received:
    27
    Me. I write hundred page (or more) mini-novels, and regularly read 2-300 page novels digitally. I'm diving into a project that will be at least that long when it's finished.

    I must admit, when I first saw the MX Revolution, I thought it would be horrible. I thought they'd designed a modern-art mouse without thinking about how well it would work.

    And then I used one on a friend's computer... I was blown away. How could something that looked that weird be that comfortable?

    I'm probably not going to get one, though. When my trusty MX-518 dies, I'm going to get one of these:

    http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=11532

    Logitech took their MX-610 and made it left-handed. Finally, a good, high-quality left-handed mouse.

    To rant for a moment, the reason nobody is making left-handed mice is because so many of us are using right-handed mice! If every left-handed person insisted on a left-handed mouse, we would have a good 10-20% market share. Thus, we would get much more interest from major manufacturers.
     
  14. Tim S

    Tim S OG

    Joined:
    8 Nov 2001
    Posts:
    18,882
    Likes Received:
    89
    Yeah, I regularly have at least one or two white papers / product briefings about new products.
     
  15. Snafu-X-

    Snafu-X- What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    27 May 2005
    Posts:
    133
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is the first mouse that I've given any serious consideration to since I got my trusty MX1000. As someone said before, the lack of a second thumb button on their other recent mice was the primary reason I didn't even consider them. The reintroduction may lead to my acquisition of the new rev, since I do have the annoying charging problem common to the MX1000. That minor issue aside though, the MX100 is the best mouse I've ever owned, a sentiment I see many here echoing.
     
  16. zr_ox

    zr_ox Whooolapoook

    Joined:
    5 Jan 2005
    Posts:
    1,143
    Likes Received:
    0
    Great review for an incredible mouse.

    I initially bought the VX revolution for my Laptop, after realizing that it was by far the best laptop mouse in history I got it's big brother. Battery life is not all that bad, and lets face it when your not using the computer how difficult is it to cradle it?

    I'm also a proud owner of the G7, which is incredible for gaming. The on the fly DPI adjustment rocks. Whats strange is people complaining about the battery life though, the design of the G7 for me is incredible all the way down to the mechanism for changing the battery. It's a gaming mouse and changing the battery mid level is like changing the magazine on a gun.....pure genius. Sure you get two to 3 days per charge but nobody games for that amount of time without a break anyway. The only downside is the lack of a back button, but thats not such a big deal.

    Can I ask why your only just going to be reviewing the G7 now? It's over 12 months old, you guys are normally on the ball with hardware reviews so why something so old? How about the Microsoft's Media Keyboard for Vista, or the new Razer Death Adder or even the Microsoft & Razer partnership which spawned the Habu?

    Great review as always.
     
  17. Tim S

    Tim S OG

    Joined:
    8 Nov 2001
    Posts:
    18,882
    Likes Received:
    89
    We'll see about getting hold of the Habu, DeathAdder and the Media Keyboard. We've only just got hold of a G7 - I didn't realise it was quite that old to be honest. Keyboards/Mice aren't my speciality, at least when it comes to keeping up-to-date with developments. :blush:
     
  18. mattthegamer463

    mattthegamer463 What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    26 Nov 2004
    Posts:
    2,804
    Likes Received:
    1
    Yeah I love my G7 to bits, its just so precise and smooth, and the battery scheme is great because I can turn it off at night, I have a battery constantly charged so no waiting, and no leaving it in the cradle everyday wasting charge cycles. I can run it until its dead and then swap the battery for the fresh one. Plus the easy change DPI is great (I use it in WarRock because planes are good to fly with a faster mouse) but if I had a desk job this would be my mouse.
     
  19. Tyr

    Tyr Minimodder

    Joined:
    7 Jun 2006
    Posts:
    136
    Likes Received:
    0
    How about looking at the MX Revolutions little brother, the VX Revolution? Similar sort of features but is a much more compact format, better battery life...
     
  20. tenpounds

    tenpounds Banned

    Joined:
    8 Feb 2007
    Posts:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    three people? can someone tell me what the view count was after the time I posted? then we can get some pretty sh!tty stats (sample size too small) about how many people really regularly view 200+ pages with revolution.


    And unless you bring your work home Techno Damn... would your boss really buy you the revolution? Or would you shell out $100 for the revolution at your job? And if you bring your work home... well... sucks to be you?


    I'm not saying that there are no one regularly reading 200+ pages... I'm just saying those that get this mouse who don't regularly read 200+ pages are > then those who do get this mouse and read 200+ pages.

    Therefore the majority that do get this mouse are simply tools. (tired of typing... and have biochem midterm tomorrow o_O)

    Anyways. People who have bought the revolution, please respond whether you regularly view 200+ pages with it. (like I said, unless your boss gets it for you at your workplace or you get one for your work place...then you can't really include jobs...)

    I do acknowledge that tim and the writer probably have this at work cause well, tim is surrounded by tech goodies... and the writer probably works at home. The revolution is really great for you guys.. cause if you work at home, and you do have 200+ pages, get a good mouse since you're gonna be using it constantly. But most of the workforce doesn't work at home (I assume this) and the workplace is where people usually look at 200+ pages of work... not at home... no one likes reading an e-book.... and at home is where people buy the revolution and bring it.

    I don't know how you guys use your home PC, but I just browse a few web sites, do stats homework, few English essay, and game.... The revolution would be quite ridiculous for anyone who uses the PC like me. (and if they use the PC like me and get it... they're just getting for class/fashion statement cause the features as I said above is completely useless to them... which makes them tools)
     
Tags: Add Tags

Share This Page