Modding Looking for a Gas...

Discussion in 'Modding' started by wbio, 28 May 2004.

  1. wbio

    wbio What's a Dremel?

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    Ok, got an idea from a friend the other day, and I want to try it out if it's possible. Basically, I'm looking for a cloudy, pretty visible gas that isn't super hot or cold. I'm looking for something that I won't need to heat or do anything like that. This is probably a pretty easy question to answer, but my brain hurts from exams and I can't really think too well atm. Thanks. :thumb:
     
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  2. asfd

    asfd What's a Dremel?

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    Cl2 IIRC is a nice yellow gas while some nitrous oxyde are Very visible brown... Only problem with those is they are a little (very?) toxic...
     
  3. whypick1

    whypick1 The über-Pick

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    Chlorine gas basically burns your lungs from the inside, while nitrous oxide is better known as laughing gas, so there are some unintended side effects from that as well.
     
  4. wbio

    wbio What's a Dremel?

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    Lol, alright, well, if possible I would rather not die from the gas :hehe:. But thanks for the help, I'll see if I can catch my chemistry teacher before I leave tommorrow... :hip:
     
  5. TMM

    TMM Modder

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    buy a can of the stuff you fill smoke machines with :rock:
     
  6. darkhunter

    darkhunter What's a Dremel?

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    yeah but i work with smoke machines a lot and they produce heat not a lot by anybosy else standards but enough to really mess temp up and make ur case hot try to use dry ice or nitrogen i hear they are cheap but never got around to finding the price
     
  7. ArmyAnt

    ArmyAnt What's a Dremel?

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    doesn't exist. not much is a gas at room temp, much less stay that way, and not kill you. i think i know what you are trying to do, and it is a good idea, i tried it, but I lost a lot of brain cells... :hip:
     
  8. Morphious

    Morphious What's a Dremel?

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    Is it the machine that causes the heat or is it from the smoke itself? Do you need a machine to make the gas?
     
  9. whypick1

    whypick1 The über-Pick

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    You don't need the machine to make the gas, all you need is dry ice in contact with the moisture in the air to create the gas, but it definitely wouldn't go anywhere on its own as it's heavier than air.
     
  10. Morphious

    Morphious What's a Dremel?

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    I knew it is heavier than air is - but is the actual machine needed or will a normal fan work?
     
  11. ConKbot of Doom

    ConKbot of Doom What's a Dremel?

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    Most the time colored gas = poisonous but for a cloud like the cloud from CO2 or LN2, what you see is the ice crystals suspended in the air.

    Yes all would need is a fan to push/pull moist air over dry ice and it would make "smoke"
     
  12. Glycerine

    Glycerine What's a Dremel?

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    Use the smoke/fog machine idea, but just route the pipes or what have you, through the case, with the fan etc in an external unit?
     
  13. Stormtrooper

    Stormtrooper Shh...

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    I supposed if you made your case airtight, you could test out the smoke from smokebomb fireworks... though I dont know how well that'd work.
     
  14. Hazer

    Hazer In time,you too will be relixalated

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    Just a side-note: The gas from dry ice is not heavier than air. Its just pure N2 which makes up the lighter side of 80% atmosphere. What you see and whats heavy is the condensation that occurs from evaporating the dry-ice. Since the condensation will eventually adhere to any surface it touches (dew), the 'smoke' doesnt last very long.
     
  15. star882

    star882 What's a Dremel?

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    I thought dry ice is solid CO2. :confused:
     
  16. khendar

    khendar What's a Dremel?

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    It is. Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide (CO2). It goes directly from a solid to a gas at room temperature, but in FOG machines dry ice is places in a cage which is dipped into warm water to really pump out the gas. Problem is that Fog machines are not only generally huge, but they chew through the ice and are actually rather dangerous.

    SMOKE machines however run on an oily fluid which is heated. The machine generates quite a bit of heat so you would need to keep it away from your comp. Also the smoke leaves an oily residue on anything close to it. So pumping it into your computer is prolly not a good idea. I believe there are non oily types of fluid but they are more expensive and harder to find.
     
  17. CoWMaN\

    CoWMaN\ What's a Dremel?

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    does it have to be gas?
    could it be whatever they put in smoke grenades?
    they have yellow, green, red etc.
     
  18. taliban_raider

    taliban_raider Just some guy; you know

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    I read somewhere that smoke is a very big hard-drive killer. It gets sucked in the tiny holes and destroys it.
     
  19. ozcar_vdb

    ozcar_vdb What's a Dremel?

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    that stuff stinks real bad :wallbash:
     
  20. shroom

    shroom What's a Dremel?

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    What your asking for basically comes down to this. No matter what you choose, it couldn't be a permanent fixture for the case because no matter what you choose, gas itself in any form can/will be harmful to the innards of your case.
    The most plausible idea here is dry ice, which when in contact with H2O "melts" into a white gas which will be pulled through all the fans in your system and look really nifty. I know because I've done it before, its a greatway to see what the airflow in your case really looks like.
    Side effects: None. No residue, no smell, no dead bodies.
    Why its difficult: Dry ice is usually a real bitch to get a hold of, not to mention it doesnt last very long, and keeping it in the freezer really wont help much unless you have a subzero cooler.
     

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