Yeah I can really picture that, I too think the first three are best of the lot. Although as I mentioned, I reckon somebody could get the other two to work (I doubt they'd be quite as saturated as they appear in that render). Hmm, I've definitely been considering doing this. Would make for some cool macro shots too, not to mention maximum bandwagon exposure (got to jump on some day eh?) Don't know if it can match Pope's though, no harm in trying mind.