Build Advice low powered web server

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  1. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    Hello,

    I'm thinking of making a web server as I'm currently parting to web hosting from 1and1 for round £3 a month and am limited to 50 gb space. so I want to know can I make a web server that cost around the same month to run but with much more space.

    we are mostly hosting wedding photos and video and want to be able to run it also as an ftp server over the internet. the website wont have loads of people on it at one time and there is only 3 of us to use the fpt side of it.

    I have no idea at what kind of spec it needs to be but I was think of something like;


    Intel i3-3220T
    MSI B75MA-P45
    8GB 1600mhz 9cas 1.5v. then under clock it to 1333mhz 9cas 1.35v
    60gb ssd
    2x3tb hard drives

    but its this under powered

    thanks for all your help
     
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  2. TaRkA DaHl

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    £3 per month of electric at 17p per kW means you need to draw less than 24W at the plug.

    Difficult but not impossible. Considered a raspberry pi? Atom?

    My celeron 1155 system using an MSI b75 itx board and 2x2gb ram with 2x3Tb drives draws 36W for example. Also has an SSD for its boot drive. A good PSD would help lower this further, mine is quite an old 80+.

    My server handles full on transcoding as well as sharing duties so this would be plenty powerful enough.

    Can't type to much as on my phone right now.
     
  3. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    I think I'm paying about 13/14p a kW.

    I'm making a nas with a atom n270 1.6ghz with 2 gb ddr2 just waiting for money for the drive hard then will be finished. will be using that hard drive in the server when its done.

    What psu are you using? as you can get the little things for got what they are called and gaming atm too


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    picoPSU-80
    http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=10#dcdc
     
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  4. TaRkA DaHl

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    The worry about a pico PSU is that it doesn't deliver enough amps to start up the system with a few hard drives, although it depends on your system.

    You can get low power SFF power supplies which is what I would like to get, currently just using an old OCZ one, not the best but it does for now.
     
  5. TobletDanillio

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    Really why would it not boot if you have lots of hard drives? Should the psu is the right watts?

    Sent from Bittech Android app
     
  6. TaRkA DaHl

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    Its to do with the spin up power required, they will draw a heck of a lot on the 12v and 5v rail. Drives tend to pull double at spin up compared to when they are operating. Even green drives are between 10-15W when spinning up, compared to 5-6W when running. Older drives and performance ones can draw as much as 30W each when starting for a split second.

    Not really an issue with two drives, but when you add more you can pop the supply if it isn't strong enough. And longevity/expandability needs to be considered when building a server.
     
  7. TobletDanillio

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    I know that drives spin up drains more but not that much.
     
  8. TobletDanillio

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    So what would be the best nas/server hard drive 3tb in size?

    Western Digital Red look ok as they are made for this and have 3 year warranty but from everyone that has got one they seem to fail in the first few months.
    so is the red the best or should i just get a cheap Seagate Barracuda?
     
  9. narwen

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    had barracuda die in less than a week. i have two 3TB red over six months old no problems
     
  10. biojellywobbles

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    I have a raspberry Pi that I use for a basic web testing server to check my PHP is working and so clients can see what the modifications to their site will be before they go live. Works admirably really for how little power it uses.
     
  11. TobletDanillio

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    I found last year the return rates of all manufactures and seagate what lower than WD.

    I would like this to be something I could upgrade in the future. plus the raspberry pi can only take sd cards and not hard drives so I would be limiting myself to 128GB?
     
  12. deathtaker27

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    how do you need so much space on your webserver?
     
  13. TobletDanillio

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    as we will be using it for ftp aswell
     
  14. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001 [DELETE] means [DELETE]

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    I'm pretty sure you can stick an external USB drive on a pi. You just need the sd to boot
     
  15. chris182

    chris182 What's a Dremel?

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    You can indeed. Best to get one that has its own power supply though just to be on the safe side!
     
  16. biojellywobbles

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    You could use a USB hard drive but I admit it is not the most expandable of solutions, probably the cheapest option though.
     

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