Other Mac fans beware

Discussion in 'Software' started by RichCreedy, 25 Mar 2010.

  1. Booga

    Booga Cuppa tea anyone?

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    This is so true with a father and son Mac user combo that I know. They are so in denile it is rediculous. They simply belive that because it is a Mac it just can't get a virus 'people don't make viruses for Macs', it is indestructable and completly infallable.
    Which is silly as they are the two most likely people ever to be trawling certain Russian, animal based grumble sites. :worried:
     
  2. gavomatic57

    gavomatic57 Minimodder

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    You're likely to find exploits on OSX, but as for viruses, they are mostly just proof-of-concept, they're not out in the wild infecting anyone who opens their email. A virus can't install itself or execute without the user doing it deliberately thanks to the user account, and even if they do install it (as a user) it should only affect the user's home folder.
    The mac hardware doesn't make a lot of sense, apart from the laptops, but the OS wipes the floor with Vista and the latest paid service pack. If it wasn't for gaming I'd ditch Windows altogether.
     
  3. barndoor101

    barndoor101 Bring back the demote thread!

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    you sure? OSX isnt as good as everyone makes out. before about a month ago i used a Mac Pro at work, and it slowed me down. now iv been given an i7 rig running Win7 and my productivity has shot up.
     
  4. samkiller42

    samkiller42 For i AM Cheesecake!!

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    OSX IS very good, but i wouldn't bother trying to compare it to Windows.
    When it comes to everyday tasks though, i choose OSX over Windows, mainly because i only turn 1 device on, and not 3, but that's just for ease of use. I do however prefer Windows over OSX, but theres very little in it.

    Sam
     
  5. BentAnat

    BentAnat Software Dev

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    there really is very little in it.
    I reckon there's plenty of room for both in the world. PCs have the benefit of being customisable, possibly (dependant on configuration) more powerful, and running games. Macs have the advantage of not having any of that. Which to me, for example, is perfect fro working on. The no BS approach.
    I bought my MBP, installed 2 programs, and started working.
    PC assemblers (meaning in this case Dell, Acer, HP, Lenovo, etc), especially on notebooks, need half an hour of cleaning rubbish off the hdd before working, simply because they bloat the installation with "my frikken awesome arcade" and "our own sh*tty security module that's slow, irritating, nags every 2 seconds, and generally wants you to shoot yourself"...
    sorry... i had to set up 4 notebooks since Jan. One was my MBP. 2 were Lenovos, and one was Acer. I almost died.
     
  6. barndoor101

    barndoor101 Bring back the demote thread!

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    you do pay a +50% markup for that though...

    depends whether you have the money and want to spend it.
     
  7. BentAnat

    BentAnat Software Dev

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    I am not denying the premium pricing of Apple products in some cases.
    HOWEVER:
    When I was shopping for a work laptop (I am a freelance web designer/developer), I had some requirements:
    4GB RAM
    C2D CPU
    Good battery life
    Low weight
    Good screen, preferably LED
    Wireless
    Card Reader
    Bluetooth

    I also had a budget.
    My friends who sell to me at their cost price plus VAT (so no markups) had a hellish time finding anything for me that I was happy with.
    Then I (as a joke, originally) had a look at a 13" MBP. It met all the requirements save the RAM, which it makes up for by having a lighter weight OS. Seeing that it's unix based, I wouldn't need to virtualise either (i will NOT work on Linux, so I'd virtualise a linux server in a Windows environment). It also fell into my price bracket. (aroun 13000,- NAD - at the time around 1000GBP)
    so I (again, as a joke) mocked my hardware retailing friends. "Look... mac can do it, and it looks good while doing it as well". Their response: "Is that 13K with or without VAT... we can do that without VAT, so add 15%". The mac pricing was with VAT, so I took that.

    It cost me the same that a good windows machine would've cost.
    Same if I look at (for example) the Airport Extreme or the Time capsule.
    Yes, it [Airport Extreme] costs ~2000 NAD here (GBP at time of writing, excahnge rate is about 1GBP~11NAD).
    But a non-dual band Wireless N router costs ~1700,- any dual band costs me exactly the same. Add 1000,- to that, and you're looking at the 1TB Time Capsule. 1000,- for 1TB HDD might be a bit much (around 150,-), but I have not seen another device that can do the same...
    So yes, they're expensive, however, they compare on most levels (not on all).
    The magic mouse is BRILLIANT. And yes, at 800,- it's steep, however, a good Logitech mouse costs you more than that. Hell - I Paid 600,- for the missus's MS Arc Mouse.
     
  8. gavomatic57

    gavomatic57 Minimodder

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    I have Snow Leopard running on my MBP and don't have any problems with it. I begrudge paying for Service Pack 3 though - it is money far better spent on hardware or productivity apps.
     
  9. cybergenics

    cybergenics What's a Dremel?

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    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=582714

    http://www.apple.com/pro/color/

    I lol'd.

    These are being marketed as Pro use machines (the MBP's) for 'professionals'. What is more strange is that they were using IPS on some MBP models but they sacked it off for cheaper TN, even if some is 8 bit (allegedly).

    What they did was the equivalent of Land Rover making all their cars front wheel drive to save on fuel.
     
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  10. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    That, in my mind, is the one saving grace for Macs. For any Apple product you're going to pay the Apple premium, and for any laptop you're going to be paying the laptop premium, yet the two premiums don't seem to stack. Plus, laptops are going to be pretty proprietary and uncustomizable machines regardless of who makes them. Leaves Macbooks being acceptable machines at acceptable prices compared to other laptops.
     

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