Modding Major help needed, Pinouts, best googlers!

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  1. Warrior_Rocker

    Warrior_Rocker Holder of the sacred iron

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    I really need the help. I am embarking on an interesting mod, to actually put an ultrabay 2000 drive bay in a computer. that way i can swap out for floppies, cdroms, etc.. with minimal space.


    What I really really really need is the pinout table for the ultrabay 2000 connector. I have tried many searches but turned up nothing.

    Please.
     
  2. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_build_your_own_UltraBay_drive

    Finding the appropriate interconnects is going to be a huge pain. You should simply modifiy a set of 5.25" hot-swappable IDE drive caddies to do the same thing so that you don't have to spend ages tracking down suppliers for proprietary connectors you may not even be able to buy.

    You can simply scalp the parts from a hot-swappable IDE caddy, then add a slimline CD-Rom IDE adapter.
    Floppies do not come in a compatible interface to be swapped in-out with IDE devices so forget about those.
     
  3. hujambo_Bwana

    hujambo_Bwana What's a Dremel?

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    Agree with Captain Slug, modding a 5,1/4 hot-swappable IDE drive caddies would ve the easyest way, unless you went down the usb route.
     
  4. Mr_SCSI

    Mr_SCSI What's a Dremel?

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    LS120 drive... :confused:

    Will read standard floppy as well as the 120mb discs.

    with IDE interface.
     
  5. Captain Slug

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    Forgot about those (I never had or used one)
     
  6. Mr_SCSI

    Mr_SCSI What's a Dremel?

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    Would only be good for the hot-swap IDE caddy idea though?
     
  7. Warrior_Rocker

    Warrior_Rocker Holder of the sacred iron

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    Maybe I missed something .... I really am just looking for a pinout table for each wire on the interface...

    I was looking at this: > ebay link <


    My plan is to mod the bay inside my computer some how. and if I cannot find the pin out tables just reverse pinout from the ide card all the way to the ultrabay connector. I already have several drives. Just looking for the connectors pinout table. I have no problem with soldering. Look at my sig for my ipod hd interface.


    Any help is appreciated.


    Edit:
    What I was planning on doing is using a ide > usb converter similar to what i used on my ipod hd project. That way the device can be taken out. If it were connected with ide internally the computer would have to be shutdown to remove the drive. Unless I missed something.

    If anyone knows the ultrabay you will know that the lever that pops out when you release the drive. I plan on making use of the electronics attached to that to physically disconnect the usb. So once you saftely remove the hardware windows will want you to disconnect the usb. just some ideas i am having. most importantly I really need the pinout table.
     
  8. Captain Slug

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    I haven't been able to find a pinout anywhere. You would have to contact IBM directly.
    If you get one of those you wouldn't need to work directly from the Ultrabay connector because you could simply make a PCMCIA-to-IDE adapter since those both use the ATA protocol.
    http://www2.wau.nl/hemeltje/temporary/personal/miscelaneous/cfadapter.html
    Or you can simply buy one here:
    http://www.amtron.com/reader/iia.htm
    Or similarly get a PCMCIA to PCI card which will act like an IDE card when the ultrabay unit is plugged into it.
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1042026

    You do not need to shut down your machine inorder to disconnect an Ultra-bay drive. The unit acts as a drive itself, but simply works as a pass-through interface for whatever you install in the ultrabay connector. It works identically to a hot-swappable drive caddy.
    The only reason you would need to turn the machine off to swap drives would be if you were swapping out drives that the OS is running off of.
     
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  9. Warrior_Rocker

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    Yea, I already got the IDE > pcmcia (only ide based card) pinouts so like i said i can just pin that out all the way to the actual ultrabay. I dont like messy connectors and converters. aim is to just solder the correct plug on the ultrabay and go.

    However I know on my ibm(s) that you have to put the machine in standby (does this automatically) whenever you eject or put in an ultrabay device. Not sure with the new ultrabay slim standards, but i know this is the way it is for ultrabay 2000.

    Not sure if my computer has the capaiblity to understand something being plugged and unplugged from an ide cable, If not its going to have to be usb.

    Perhaps I can use the same concepts present in the pcmcia ata reader to make my drive hot swap. I really cannot ever shutdown my computer or put it in standby. And btw its a shuttle, so space is severly limited, I already have 3 hd's installed in it. and room is quickly running out. so hooking up fancy converters and large boards on the inside is really no option.

    Edit:

    Thanks for the suggestions on what to get, but I have no free PCI sockets either, I do have 2 free ide sockets on my motherboard, as all my other drives are sata. It just seems so simple to migrate this ultrabay socket, and connect it internally with ide. or usb
     

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