Electronics Make my own PCI card?

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  1. Yo-DUH_87

    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Ok, done!! I now have a vacation :D MESA HAPPY :hehe: :) :D

    Have you decided on how much RAM you want? I found some 4 meg chips, but if you want to store the whole song on it (so that you can have rewind, and such), you will need more.

    I was thinking, that if you will be needing more ram than 4 megs, why not use SIMM ram, or possibly even dimm, so that you could expand as much as you want. I know I have well over 200 megs of simm sitting around! And dimm is so cheap... I think simm is better, though!

    Let me know what you think!

    :cries: they took my :rofl: away, :cries:, I don't know if I can hold up under the stress of not having my kind, faithful, :rofl: :cries:

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  2. Yo-DUH_87

    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    <off_subject>
    BTY, you are over your 1337 post count! Are you going to have a party, now (I live in the US, so I wouldn't be able to come :( )
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    Just to make this relavent, I was at <hehe>Fry's</hehe> the other night, and saw a copper PCI board that looked like it was ready for a coustom etch! I can see that prety peice of hardware now :D

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  3. relix

    relix Minimodder

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    lol, I think 4meg is enough as that's enough for 4 minutes average. Lol, yeah, my party was yesterday but nobody came of the Bit-Tech :(
    lol :D Fly's party you mean? Mmmmmmmmmm :eeek: :lol:
     
  4. Yo-DUH_87

    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Ok, 4 meg it is! Just don't do anything over 4 min, or it won't work!

    I'll look for a chip as soon as I get time ( I've got to revive 2 dead computers, take back some camera equipment, and do other assorted things :( )

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  5. relix

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    Okay thanks! I'll write some software so when the 4mb is reached the first 1 mb or so is cleared and replaced by the next 1 mb, so we can have it as big as we want!
     
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    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Ok! Sounds like a plan :D

    Looking for a chip now...
     
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    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Do you know how hard it is searching for a ram chip on the web? It is like looking for a needle in a haystack (or that unlabeled game cd in a batch of blank cds), not easy :D :D

    Everything I find is either part of a cdrom drive, or a sale on computer RAM. ***, I think that I need to find a peice of ram to kill (SMASH, oops, that was a 128 meg pc-800, oh well) :D

    Still looking...
     
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    hehe, yeah, I know how hard it is, I've searched for it myself too ;)

    thanks for the link, I'll take a look at it right away...
     
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    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Is TI ok? we could use tochiba instead.

    Now, what is next (I could realy get into this!).

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  11. relix

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    well...it's non-volatile, so that means the information will stay in the chip when the PC is powered off... this could have some problems, but I dunno...

    mmmm...next...probably figure out how PCI works, what pins we need to connect and stuff, and then write the scheme!
     
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    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Do you want volitale ram? Combine regular ram with TNT, and a battery :lol: Oh, not that kind?

    http://pdf.toshiba.com/taec/components/Datasheet/4001a.pdf

    Here, volitale RAM! It is Toshiba, though :sigh: I like TI better :lol:

    How PCI works, hmm, ok! This might take awhile, so, please have patence :lol:

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  13. relix

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    hehe, yeah I've searched the net a lot, but can't find anything about it... only a bit in google groups, but they are always talking about "how to program drivers", but that's not a problem as I've got this neat little program to do that... Sounds like making the PCI card isn't as hard as programming the drivers for it... I'll check out this driver program, and take a look at the code it generates, maybe this can help us out a bit. The only thing I'm worrying about (as I already said I thought) is that the PCI stuff works on 33Mhz, and the PIC on 20Mhz, so we have to be able to compensate things a bit, how, I dunno... maybe overclocking the PIC? with some really big coolers on it... now that would be overclocking to the limit! hehe... Yeah, we wouldn't need an oscillator anymore then, as we can then just connect the PIC's clock pin to the PCI's clock pin (which goes at 33Mhz ...)

    overclocking PIC's... how low did we fall :D :D
     
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    Ok, turning core voltage up to 6.5, ohh, temps rising to 192 C, mayday, mayday! Ok, now we have a 300 W Peilter and a waterblock on it, turning core voltage up to 6.5, it's stable, houstin, we have a 33 MHz PIC :hehe:

    Ok, that was sad :lol:, but you get the idea of how pathedic that would be :D

    Could you find a 33 MHz pic?

    There are also 66 MHz PCI cards :grr: which spec do you want to use?

    Bty, we'll probibly have to buy a book, because in order to get access to the PCI documents, you need to pay a $3000 a year fee (ouch :lol: ). If you can find it free, let me know!

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    okay, sure thing mate, if I find a good book somewhere and my parents let me buy it, it's mine! ;)
     
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    Ok, good deal!

    You might want to check amazon.com, they have a very good selection of "tech books."

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  17. dfhaii

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    this is all good stuff, i just read from start to finish but i know nuthing about electronics or programming, if when finished u could sent me circit diags and a *.dll file to drive it i would app greatly, good luck with the project. 1 thing though, u need to get some blue leds in there sum how, i dunno iif u could make it so they r red when no moosic and bloo with music?? ggod luck cheers

    dfhaii@hotmail.com
     
  18. Yo-DUH_87

    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Hey, pal, leds are sooooooooooo easy, that hopefuly the only time that they are mentioned in this thread is in the final circut diagram.

    The idea belongs to relix, so ask him! He will be doing most of the work (programing, asigning work, and so forth), and forking up most of the "research capital (in other words, he's spending money for this to happen)."

    I think I just found +12 in the PCI pinnout! Yahoo! I don't like all that 3.3v stuff :lol:

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    Looks good, I saw a 24 volt potential on that pinout! :hehe: power!!

    There is a +12 and a -12, I like that, and there are grounds. I can easily see this happening!

    We could get a single chip solutioin, I heard that there are chips that feed info right into the pci bus, but I don't know how much they are.

    If you want, you can purchace the IEEE 1386 (pci) standard for $74, online. Here is the link.

    If you want, you could use your pic, and put multible devices on the one PCI card, like your wireless LCD and remote, your rehobus, etc. If you are going to spend the money to buy one copper pci card, you might as well use as much of it as posible!

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