Electronics making a 50/60hz clock

Discussion in 'Modding' started by bixie_62, 19 Aug 2005.

  1. bixie_62

    bixie_62 Minimodder

    Joined:
    17 Jun 2004
    Posts:
    1,595
    Likes Received:
    10
    hey all
    am making a clock.....
    and ive managed to acquire an IC.
    the lm8560n
    i've got everything else wired up and everything,the only thing that i cant figure out is the 50/60hz input
    so is there anyway that i can make some sort of a small board that will output a 50/60hz signal?
    thanx.
    (im thinking 555 timer)
     
  2. SteveyG

    SteveyG Electromodder

    Joined:
    23 Nov 2002
    Posts:
    3,049
    Likes Received:
    8
    A 555 timer is not accurate enough - you'll probably end up losing or gaining several minutes every day. The IC is designed so that you can easily derive a stable frequency from the mains (hence the 50/60Hz signal), but if you can't for whatever reason then you either need a crystal-based oscillator, and scale down the frequency.
     
  3. Turbokeu

    Turbokeu Minimodder

    Joined:
    30 Jul 2002
    Posts:
    347
    Likes Received:
    2
    Did you have a look at the LM8560 datasheet...?
    All you need is a 100K resistor and a 1nF capacitor connected to the secondary winding of the transformer and the 50/60Hz input.

    CD :)
     
  4. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

    Joined:
    27 Nov 2001
    Posts:
    12,328
    Likes Received:
    55
    bUT HE'S Wanting to run it from a battery. Something like a 4060 chip, which has a built-in oscillator that can be crystal-controlled, and a built-in divide-by-2-lots-of-times series of flipflops, would be OK, but I can't spot a crystal frequency to give 50Hz or 60Hz after binary division. :confused:

    There is a battery-backup on that chip, so maybe it will keep reasonable time from built-in bits. :confused: :confused: RTFM. ;)
     
  5. Turbokeu

    Turbokeu Minimodder

    Joined:
    30 Jul 2002
    Posts:
    347
    Likes Received:
    2
    Sorry, I can't see where he's talking about battery running... :confused:

    3.2768MHz Xtal with 2^16 divider gives you exactly 50Hz.

    Intersil used to have a chip (ICM7238?) which runned from a 3.2768MHz Xtal and had two outputs (50 and 60Hz), but it seems obsolete now (I have still one running on a self-made LED clock from 1973).

    The 4521 unfortunately has 2^18 as lowest divider, the 4060 has 2^14 as highest divider.

    A 4060 with 3.2768MHz Xtal, output after the 14th flipflop, followed by two more flipflops to obtain 2^16 divider?

    CD :)
     
  6. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

    Joined:
    27 Nov 2001
    Posts:
    12,328
    Likes Received:
    55
    Ah, it was his other thread on the same subject :eyebrow: , but as the datasheet circuit shows how to tap the 50/60Hz from the psu transformer secondary I assumed he was still on the same requirement. ;)
     
  7. bixie_62

    bixie_62 Minimodder

    Joined:
    17 Jun 2004
    Posts:
    1,595
    Likes Received:
    10
    hey
    thanx for that.
    yup, i do want to run it off a battery,but i dont particularly wanna mess around with AC power.
    will see whats happening after i get my results on thurs as will have more cash on that day if all goes well so will probly end up placing a big order with RS on fri!
    thanx all.
     
  8. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

    Joined:
    27 Nov 2001
    Posts:
    12,328
    Likes Received:
    55
    Don't forget an LCD clock will run a year on a small battery, an LED one a few days. :sigh:
     
  9. SteveyG

    SteveyG Electromodder

    Joined:
    23 Nov 2002
    Posts:
    3,049
    Likes Received:
    8
    And maybe not even that if your segment current is 10mA... :(
     

Share This Page