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  1. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    DirectX10 (Direct3D10, to be precise) is for Vista only. XP will have to make due with DX9. Installing the latest DX9 is always a good idea. You might want to download it off Microsoft.com instead of installing it from the CD. The version number will be the same, but Microsoft regularly does bug fixes.
     
  2. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    Hi azrael and thanks.

    I didn't think you could download DX9 anymore now that Microsoft has withdrawn support for XP.

    Having installed XP is it still possible for me to download and install on to the computers a Beta version of Win 7 and use that as the OS untill the retail version is available and will the Beta download make use of Direct X10?
     
  3. Jenny_Y8S

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    People always seem to forget that only a tiny percentage of the planets computers are running on a "good brand" power supply. And most PSU failures don't do any damage to their host computer.

    Has my i7 rig got a decent PSU? Yes!

    If I was putting 3 budget PCs together would I put premium PSUs in there? No!
     
  4. azrael-

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    You can get the latest DX9 from Microsoft's Download Center.

    As for Windows 7, the release candidate is supposed to be ready for download for the public some time next week. That version will work for a number of months, but I'm not sure if Windows 7 will be finished then. Windows 7 comes with DX11, by the way.
     
  5. thehippoz

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    yeah I like getting the sdk.. gives you everything you need- the latest version of dx isn't on your regular windows update.. I guess they do this to save bandwidth for business customers.. then put the latest install on game disks.. like az said it's on microsoft.com download center
     
  6. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    Hi Jenny,

    In the end I settled for 400w Corsair PSUs. I got them for a good price so I'm not unhappy.
     
  7. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    Something occurred to me, Hope someone can answer.

    The new MOBOs I have got support direct X10, I wish to use the on board graphics but am installing Win XP Home which uses Direct X9.

    Will I be able to use the on-board graphics If I install Direct X9 with XP home?

    Win 7 comes available soon and will require Direct X11, will my new ASUS Mobo's be able to support Win 7, via the on board graphics?

    Will I have to flash the graphic chip or will it simply be a case of downloading Direct X 11?
     
  8. azrael-

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    The on-board graphics solution works perfectly well with Windows XP and it will also work perfectly well with DX11 in Windows 7. DX is generally backwards compatible, meaning that everything that runs on DX10 will also run on DX11. If you should happen to get a piece of software that explicitly uses DX11 the missing functionality would usually have to be emulated in software.
     
  9. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks azrael,

    May I ask, are you Danish by birth, I mean is Danish your mother tongue?
     
  10. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    you sir havent seen the likes of a Q-tec power supply then, making out that for a little as £10 brand new can produce 350W of clean stable power.

    http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=15321&source=froogle

    there so good infact that there out of stock! ROFL!!!!! they must have been knocking them out for less than £5 a unit.

    Q-tec also do a 650W PSU, now would you happily run your I7 machine on that? Q-tec also supply alot of PSU's as OEM's so i wouldn't touch an OEM at all now.

    I bought a Q-tec 500w off ebay, well the *** listed it as a hiper PSU took the money and ran, shutting down his account. oh fun that was. Any way i hacked it into a 12v and 5v bench PSU no dodgy wiring or anything, anyway it blew after a total of 3 hours use over 6 months. PSU was always loaded when ever switched on.

    OEM = :nono:
     
  11. azrael-

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    There... fixed that for you... :)
     
  12. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    I was born in Germany, but moved to Denmark at the age of 10. That's almost 30 years ago now... :)
     
  13. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    I asked because your English is perfect, I hope you didn't mind me asking. :thumb:
     
  14. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    Thank you very much, but I find my English threadbare at best... If anything I usually feel the need to elaborate everything I write to get my point across. Hence the wordy posts... ;)
     
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    Threadbare and elaborate, I wouldn't worry azrael, your word perfect and wordy posts are the best posts in forums such as these. :)
     
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    where does the time go eh?
     
  18. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    Hi,

    MOBO is ASUS M3A78-EM

    I have more questions?

    As mentioned I am building 3 almost identical rigs, using the same Mobo and ram and new PC ATX cases.

    The only difference really in builds is some of the HD drives will be IDE or Sata so will some of the optical drives.

    With the new Mobos came ASUS Q-connectors.

    The new ATX cases have the usual mix of cables from the front and the cases them selves has front mic, USBs, head phone and fire wire inputs/outputs and two fan speed control knobs.

    Cases also have tiny colour screens that gives information like CPU temp', times, that kind of thing.

    Fire wire lead won't be connected we have no use of it.

    So questions,

    1) The blue ASUS Q block has the markings NC, what do these initials mean and what do I connect to this pin if anything?


    2) One of the case leads has connectors marked Audio Mic, right, left and ground, I assume these are for the front mic and headphones but where on the above mobo do I fit these connectors?

    The new builds will have a mixture of IDE and Sata Hds and optical drives.

    3) As far as the Sata Hds are concerned which on board SATA connector do I connect to 1,2,3,4 or 5 or does it matter?

    4) One of the new machines will have an IDE HD that will have an IDE to Sata adapter fitted, do I need to fit or remove a jumper to allocate it as a master drive if using this sata adapter?

    5) The above machine will also have a new SATA DVD drive fitted and an existing IDE CD drive refitted, again the CD drive will have a Sata adapter fitted but does this CD drive need to be allocated as a slave using a jumper?
     
  19. azrael-

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    Quick reply to your questions:

    1) No idea at the moment. :)

    2) Read page 1-35 in the manual about the AAFP (front audio) connector.

    3) You best connect your drives in the order you want to access them. So your first hard drive should be connected to SATA1. Sometimes the labeling for the connectors gets mixed up (either onboard or in the manual), so check the POST screen and move the cable to another connector, if necessary.

    4) PATA -> SATA adapters (or vice versa) is a seriously bad idea. Avoid if at all possible. From what I can tell there's 1 PATA connector on the motherboard, so you can hookup 2 PATA devices; primary for the hard drive and secondary for e.g. a DVD writer.

    5) Put the SATA drive on a SATA connector and the PATA drive on the secondary PATA port (as mentioned above).

    Hope that helps for now... :)
     
  20. jago 551

    jago 551 What's a Dremel?

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    Hi azrael, :)
    It dawned on me it might stand for No Connection, what do you think---but then why the pin?
    I did, ( through an electron microscope I might add ), and I thought it might be AAFP but wasn't sure, can you confirm some things?

    According to the manual, as it is only front head phones and mic, I should connect as legacy AC 97, is that right?

    If so, using the manual's diagram, I have 4 connectors from this case lead, so does mic connect to either mic 2 L or R pins of the AAFP, the head phones L-R connectors connect to L-R line out pins and the ground connector to the AGND pin, am I right?

    If I connect and use these front ports, when in use, will they automatically disable the rear mic and head phone ports?

    Why do you write it is a bad idear to use PATA/Sata adapters?
     

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