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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Discussion in 'Serious' started by Strudul, 12 Mar 2014.

  1. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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  2. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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  3. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    At least mine isnt completely crazy and makes for a very interesting read...

    Yours is just fkin nuts! hahaha
     
  4. David

    David Take my advice — I’m not using it.

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    Can someone explain to me why, after two weeks, they are now insisting the flight went down in the indian ocean, because satellite tracking proves it?

    Surely they've have that info from day one?
     
  5. RTT

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    They've allegedly used "new data" for the "confirmation" and will "release more details tomorrow"
     
  6. Porkins' Wingman

    Porkins' Wingman Can't touch this

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    They've been analysing the original satellite data, and slowly eliminating all the data that they knew related to other flights, until they got to the only reasonable conclusion from the remaining data.

    All those calculations would then need to be verified and bulletproof before they announce it. Can't assume incompetence unless you have some inside knowledge of the technical and diplomatic considerations.
     
  7. RTT

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    Precisely
     
  8. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Far over the misty mountains cold

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    They find new information from satellite everyday...

    I still wait for a part of the plane.
     
  9. Nexxo

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  10. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Far over the misty mountains cold

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    If CNN was once a reliable source of information, it's definitively over.
     
  11. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    Dude you're not kidding. This weekend my sister-in-law was the poster child for logical fallacy when she started talking about her airline mechanic friend. Apparently he knows something about ACARS, and he's positive the plane is hidden in a hangar in China. Also, Muslims are bad. Therefore it's obviously a conspiracy.

    You just smile and nod and slowly walk out of the room before they fully engage you.
     
  12. Bede

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    Other than the families of the 200+ people on the plane, I don't really see why anyone else should take such an interest. It's pretty ghoulish.

    CNN hasn't been a reliable source of info for years. Neither has any other TV media provider. TV is only good for entertainment. For information (which is what news should be) only the textual news will do.

    On top of that, no single information provider can be trusted. An aggregate combined with personal judgement is your best bet - which is pretty information-rich, hence the textual emphasis.
     
  13. Nexxo

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    Don't make eye contact and always stay downwind from them. They can smell your sanity.
     
  14. law99

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    Just a little add to this; I know a little about the Inmarsat Satellite network, and the spot beams that you connect to transmit data are larger than the size of the UK. So it is no wonder it is so difficult to pin point the craft when they weren't sending back GPS data.

    TBF to Inmarsat, they were spot on with their statement about it simply being unacceptable that this day and age planes, boats etc aren't sending back GPS data over satellite. It costs hardly anything and we've had the tech for 10+ years.

    Just to put this into perspective, there are taxi firms that do a better job of tracking their fleet.

    That is not what they have. It isn't tracking data really, it is the logs of the a connection to 1 of 3 satellites providing voice and data services across the globe by Inmarsat. If there was, as Inmarsat have called for, perhaps unsurprisingly as they would look to profit from, tracking data provided back via their network, this story would have been a lot shorter.

    There are 2 options that are commercially available now in the mobile satellite service space that could provide the data connection almost everywhere in the world that would allow real-time tracking information; the Iridium network and the Inmarsat network. Iridium provides a global service via a LEO constellation of satellites and we are talking truly global coverage. The geostationary satellites of the Inmarsat network cover most of the globe except for the extreme polar regions.

    This could have been fixed back in 2007 or even earlier. The terminals to provide this capability already exist on the planes. As in, they are already installed, and used for other services, It truly is amazing that they don't send back GPS tracking data.
     
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  15. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Far over the misty mountains cold

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    They detected a beacon at 14 800 feet under the se, as a comparison, the Titanic is resting at 12 000 feet D:
     
  16. RTT

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    Where'd you get that figure from? I've not seen anything official-ish confirming that
     
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    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Well, the good news is that there are a number of submersibles that can reach that depth. The Alvin just came out of overhaul and is air transportable on a C-5 Galaxy. Australia or China should have a vessel capable of supporting it.

    I'm pretty sure the Russians have a Mir and support ship on the Pacific coast somewhere and would be happy for some good publicity.
     
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  20. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    Wow. The ocean truly is a mind-boggling place. It's amazing just how far down those places reach, and just how much we don't know about the deep dark places in the water.
     

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