A couple of years ago my mother (bless her heart) bought me a book about the origins of crime in the East End of London. Oddly enough there was a huge section of the book about gambling, and the origins of it. It was designed by criminals with which to fleece people. Mostly it began with stalls outside of horse races, crooked as can be. This origin then continued and well, gambling is now what it is. However, any one thinking that gambling isn't fixed really need to have a word with themselves. Many years ago I was quite heavily involved in the production of a real fruit machine emulator. I can't even begin to explain how many illegal activities were found during that time. One of which was the fact that pretty much all Hi Lo gambles and any repeat chances were completely pre determined. One machine even showed you how many gambles the machine had allowed if you connected up an Aux 7 segment display (easy in the emulator). Needless to say an enormous poo storm ensued, with the end result being that BACTA basically put a sticker on their machines to cover themselves. But it goes on a lot further than that. I also met a few people during that time who actually worked coding the software for fruit machines. In many cases they were putting in 'emptiers' and then selling them to friends and associates. Some were caught but it still goes on. But I'm wasting my time really. Obsessive gamblers are pretty much in the same ranks of drug addicts and alcoholics and you can give them all of the facts you want yet they will just ignore you and continue regardless. It's quite an illness is gambling. I've seen people lose their wives, jobs and even their houses because of it. So IMO this forum should not be used to promote it. It's just like some one posting saying they know where to get cheap weed or alcohol IMO.