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Other Mathematical Puzzle

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  1. Blogins

    Blogins Panda have Guns

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    Need to crack this code so any help much appreciated!

    The numbers on the left below are the original numbers, then those on the right were generated using a formula. What is that formula?

    001 / 70
    002 / 83
    003/ 37
    004 / 12
    005 / 25
    006 / 38
    007 / 51
    008 / 64
    009 / 77
    010 / 68
     
  2. ch424

    ch424 Design Warrior

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    (((x+4)*13)+5)%97 is very close - I don't know how to get 37 and 68 though
     
  3. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    Bag of bingo balls.
     
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  4. Pliqu3011

    Pliqu3011 all flowers in time bend towards the sun

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    Are the starting zeroes on the left side significant?
    Are both sides decimal?
     
  5. wolfticket

    wolfticket Downwind from the bloodhounds

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    It has the feel of a lateral thinking type answer, rather than just maths. Why are the numbers on the left 3 digits?
     
  6. Blogins

    Blogins Panda have Guns

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    Thanks for the effort but it does have to be dead right! :thumb:

    Here's some more data I've grabbed today...

    210 / 82
    211 / 95
    212 / 11
    213 / 24
    214 / 37
    215 / 50
    216 / 63
    217 / 76
    218 / 89
    219 / 05
    220 / 93
     
  7. Blogins

    Blogins Panda have Guns

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    Right then code-breakers, I've found some examples of different numbers generating identical two digit numbers as below...

    003 / 37
    214 / 37

    133 / 39
    205 / 39

    131 / 13
    039 / 13

    In the right hands this might be the key to cracking the formula!
     
  8. elise_s1

    elise_s1 New Member

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    is it a strictly Mathematical formula or does it contain also functions like (rnd), (abs) or similar?
     
  9. Blogins

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    All I know is that the two digit number is derived from the three digit number on the left.
     
  10. loftie

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    After looking at it for a bit - my brain hurts.

    But, both sets of data have a section that is linear involving the number 13. Other things i've noticed if you include a hard limit at 97, then the 13 patter mostly sticks.

    001 / 70 (+13=83)
    002 / 83 (+13 = 96)
    003/ 37 (fubared number, but take 96 +13=12)
    004 / 12 (+13 = 25)
    005 / 25 (+13 = 38)
    006 / 38 (+13 = 51)
    007 / 51 (+13 = 64)
    008 / 64 (+13 = 77)
    009 / 77 (+13 = 90 - fubared)
    010 / 68 (no numbers after)

    210 / 82 (+13 = 95)
    211 / 95 (+13 = 11)
    212 / 11 (+13 = 24)
    213 / 24 (+13 = 37)
    214 / 37 (+13 = 50)
    215 / 50 (+13 = 63)
    216 / 63 (+13 = 76)
    217 / 76 (+13 = 89)
    218 / 89 (+13 = 05)
    219 / 05 (+13 = 18 fubared again)
    220 / 93 (no numbers after)

    This is what you get if you try to graph it - i bunched up the 200s so the graph isnt huge. [​IMG]

    Well that's what I've noticed so far, thought I'd share. Don't know if it's right, certainly not complete.
     
  11. Blogins

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    Thanks Loftie! Shows there is a pattern so there is a hard and fast formula in there somewhere.

    Just figuring the bugger out!
     
  12. Nealieboyee

    Nealieboyee Packaging Master!

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    218/89 (+13 = 05). I see how the others would work, but this one doesn't add up.
     
  13. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    What's interesting to me is that the first numbers range from 001 to 220, yet the formula's output is always less than 100. Further interesting is that a number as low as 007 produces 51, but 215 produces 50, and when you get all the way up to 219 you get 05.

    Is there a data set where the formula produces a 3 digit number?
     
  14. Blogins

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    No, it's always a two digit number generated.

    I'll have to get a more expansive data set up for some serious number crunching!
     
  15. loftie

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    218 / 89 (+13 = 05) ceiling of 97
    so

    01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10,11,12,13
    90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,01,02,03,04,05

    This is all guess work tbh. Those 3 numbers though just don't make sense to me, the first graph had me thinking it was going to be a quartic equation, the second one swung me on to the idea of asymmetric triangle wave, but then I'd expect the gradients to repeat. So i'm probably just overcomplicating things! :D

    Failing that, it spells VW... :hehe:

    Edit: Where did this mental nightmare come from blogins? :p
     
  16. elise_s1

    elise_s1 New Member

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    let's try to put things together:
    ceiling 97
    step 13 (read as x*13) for rightmost digit
    offset -22 for each middle digit increase
    some sort of boxcar function (range 97) with 003 as transition point
     

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