not sure if this is the right place but i figured most people here run mbm to make sure nothings frying ive got mbm5 and asus smartdoctor 2 both latest versions and MBM5 is supposed to be able to read the temps from smart doctor 2 according to the mbm help. smartdoctor is getting the temps from the card but the temp sensors arent appearing in the lists in mbm. any ideas? thanks Pies EDIT right i think ive found the problem MBM5 was looking for the file C:\Program Files\ASUS\SmartDoctor\\anvmi.dll so i fiddled with the registry to get rid of the double \ but the file anvmi.dll isnt there. any ideas if its just a new version of the software that dosent use the dll or where to get older versions to try. the cards a gf3 so its not really a problem what version i use (especially as this one wont auto minimise )