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News Media Defender emails leak onto the Internet

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Da Dego, 17 Sep 2007.

  1. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

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  3. Hells_Bliss

    Hells_Bliss New Member

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    isn't a private company "downloading for evidence" files off a P2P site still breaking copyright laws? I want to see the RIAA and MPAA sue them for $100,000 per enfringement :p

    I wouldn't be surprised if heads rolled in the NYDA office too, I don't see warrants for all those recorded IP addresses and download histories, not including that download accelerator fiasco that just happened to scan a private PC and sends all results to MediaDefender...isn't that a breach of privacy, spreading spyware, and entrapment? good job! do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
     
  4. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

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    Yep, and what's worse is that using a private company to do a public job without going through public channels to obtain all of this stuff not only puts the NYDA at risk, but also Media Defender - which could be sued into non-existence if anyone is actually contacted regarding these operations. ;) The problem is, it's child porn - that makes it hard to side with the perps. It's one thing if we were talking more copyright infringement, but the NYDA's sting is on something that's hard to say no to.

    "You're catching child porn traders and picture takers by illegal means..."

    How many people would care if it busts up a ring of 100 or so kiddie-molesters? Unfortunately, people are willing to trade away their liberties for the illusion of safety every day of the week.
     
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    D3s3rt_F0x New Member

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    By infiltrated do you mean hacked?

    If so what if it was your own email box on the net would you be happy? What about these laws for privacy which are there to protect you?

    Or is it a case of becaue its a company you dont like you decide its ok to look and therefore for them to be "infiltrated"?

    Not gonna agree with what there doing if what you posted is correct but wouldnt exactly agree with you looking at the stuff either after if its been obtained illegaly. But my argument all hinges on if this was an inside person who wanted to expose things fair enough however if its a hacker then shame on you.
     
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    No it's not right, but it's what they've done to countless individuals and now its happened to them. In that way it is very amusing.
     
  7. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Two wrongs do not make a right
     
  8. Da Dego

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    Ah, but three lefts do! :)
     
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    They won't be accused and given a fine of 100.000 per infringement... unfortunately. RIAA/MPAA and all of their buddies are covering eachother's back. I wouldn't be suprised if 90% of the "monkeys" at RIAA/MPAA are downloading illegally as well.
     
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    well luckily i stay to the bigger easier to hide in sites. but its good to see someone managed to turn the tables and really piss "the man" off. hopefully this wont really poke the lion in the cage and set of a whole new rash of problems because im looking forward to downloading the shows i wanna watch that start this week :D
     
  11. naokaji

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    theres one problem though...


    Seriously, its a clear failing of the government if it gives away the fight against criminals to companies (that they make money of it is even worse)....

    law enforcment needs to be with the police, and absolutly noone else.

    but, both the government and the police have failed to enforce that... so, it is the right and the responsibility of the people to stand up and fight before its too late.
     
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    in terms of the riaa trying to sue them, that would make no sense, under copy right law the you have to express permission to obtain a copy of said material. now obviously if they are working for the RIAA they'll have permission and what type of boss would sue you for doing the job you paid them to do?
     
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    oh this is all pretty messed up, media defender has it's dirty laundry out in the open now. and while most p2per's a happier they are out of commission this is fighting fire with fire, and Id on't think it will end well
     
  14. Bluephoenix

    Bluephoenix Spoon? What spoon?

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    I applaud this as using illegal tactics to enforce the law is completely wrong and violates everything the Constitution stands for.

    Even though the people they helped put away were doing some evil stuff, the courts exist for a reason, the law exists for a reason, and even the most evil people in the world deserve a fair trial.

    as one of our forum member's sig states:
    I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -voltaire
     
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    but they weren't working for the RIAA or MPAA, the MPAA has specifically said they had no knowledge of MediaDefenders actions. They were working for the NY District attourneys office. God knows how much information they downloaded for "evidence." I'm sure there would have been child pornography included, but all of it is inadmissible in US courts...that whole illegal search and seizure amendment...so all they did was ruin their reputation, cause a lot of people to look like idiots, and break the law themselves.

    good intentions maybe, child porn is sick, but it's still illegal.
     
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    herbs Nobody but us chickens

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    Oh great no more Law & Order then, poor Jack Mcoy is out of a job :D:eyebrow: :lol:
     
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    nah he'll just run for president like his boss did :p
     
  18. DXR_13KE

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    that constitution that today is full of holes because of other laws that were approved during these past years?
     
  19. C-Sniper

    C-Sniper Stop Trolling this space Ądmins!

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    Downloading for evidence huh? They should take part in the storage space survey...

    I wonder if their employees ever took a backup of the evidence home just encase of an office fire...
     
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