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News Microsoft enables passwordless logins

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Gareth Halfacree, 20 Apr 2017.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    I hope there's an option to "force sign out everywhere (and lock screen)" otherwise one little mistake and boom.
     
  3. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    So they've taken 2FA and made it 1FA, lets hope you don't lose your phone.
     
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    The problem is that computers still need to be accessed, even if not connected to the internet. So, how exactly do you log in when not connected? Probably with a password. So, until we come up with a password alternative that relies on nothing other than the user and their computer, we're probably never going to have a password alternative.
     
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    <sarcasmon>With everything being in the "cloud" (files, software, music, etc) why would you need access to your computer if it does not have access to the internet?<sarcasmoff>
     
  6. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Let's swap that for cars: The problem is that I still need to get about while inside a building, even if not connected to a road. So, how exactly do I get about when not connected? Probably with my feet. So, until we come up with a feet alternative that relies on nothing more than the user and their destination, we're probably never going to have a feet alternative.

    If you're wanting to log on to an offline computer, you'll still need a password; this is not an alternative to that, and considering it's only compatible with Microsoft Accounts - which are, by definition, online rather than offline - it's not being positioned as such. Having keyless entry and start on your car is not a replacement for your house keys, either, but that hasn't stopped it being a popular option for the last few years, has it?

    TL;DR: "This system cannot be used for every possible scenario, ergo is useless" does not a cogent argument make.
     
  7. dstarr3

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    "If you're wanting to log on to an offline computer, you'll still need a password; this is not an alternative to that."

    "Microsoft has announced that it is attempting to do away with passwords"

    Article sure reads like that's what they're trying to do. That's what I'm responding to.
     
  8. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Wait, What? How dare a company be deliberately misleading like that. ;)
     
  9. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    As the bit of the lede you didn't bother to quote should hopefully make clear, it's talking about Microsoft Accounts ("their accounts," "their" being Microsoft) which are online accounts - and about a 2FA system that doesn't work offline either. This is an alternative to passwords for online accounts.

    Even if I failed to make that clear, you're still being either dashedly shortsighted or deliberately disingenuous.
     
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    I'm working of doing away with bankcards and money, simply transfer all your earnings to me and I'll get you some basic nourishment to keep you going. Free from all those pesky choices and decisions you will feel like you are in paradise(/North Korea).

    Or in other words,: Piss off big ugly US corporation that wants control of every human and all their privacy.
    (Now they will probably just install a keylogger and sneak into their EULA that you are OK with them capturing typed passwords.. sigh.)
     

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