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News Microsoft hit with $200m patent fine

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 21 May 2009.

  1. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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  2. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    what happens if MS ships an OS without a browser then.

    how do we download another browser to use ???????
     
  3. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg New Member

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    Fancy ftp client ?
     
  4. Tim S

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    Windows Explorer?

    Next thing, Microsoft bundling Windows Explorer with Windows harms competition in the FTP client market... :hehe:
     
  5. AlexB

    AlexB Web Nerd and WC Addict

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    Ha ha, I presume nobody has thought of that? I dont see a problem with them bundling IE. Nobody forces you to only use it? Mad.
     
  6. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    FTP client, i guess is an option but for your average joe/jo they need a browser to down load anything and if MS take that away as standard do they need to go get a CD wtih firefox on or chrome lol
     
  7. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg New Member

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    Actually that wouldn't be a bad idea. Have a "folder" with a list of browsers to download and install.
     
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    wouldn't that still be forcing you to choose between just the ones THEY want? i am glad it comes with IE, how else am i supposed to go get firefox? :)
     
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    thehippoz New Member

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    if your unfortunate enough to write code someone else has already patented.. 200m rly.. what a freaking joke!
     
  11. pizan

    pizan that's n00b-tastic

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    Wow lame patent cases must be the only source of income for that part of Texas. We really need some patent reform.
     
  12. Nicb

    Nicb Let's discuss among ourselves

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    I hope MS pays up if its truly infringement, which would not be the first time.

    I would love it if Internet Explorer did not come with the installation. I've always kept a recent Firefox install file on my portable drive.
    I think the most reasonable thing would be to have a menu list in the installation process.
    But then again how many people actually install their own OS like we do. The masses would have preinstalled Windows and of course IE 8 with it. Over all I think that (FF)argument is a waste of time and would not change much if they did win.

    Haha if everybody used Firefox I would be wondering what the better browser was.
     
  13. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    We live an era where people can actually try and create anything because in some way or form its been patented so we effective reduce our technological progress ugh I hate it...
     
  14. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    indeed... we have got to a point that it scares developers away....
     
  15. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    i asked the same thing on a previous related story
     
  16. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    on the patent front, i wrote a big long piece about why the patent system is wrong and should be gotten rid of, i feel it stifels innovation or improvement. i decided not to post it.

    you only have to look at the patent dispute that is graham bell. 2 people working on similar ideas but 1 got to the patent office first. so the other loses out. doesn't matter whose was better just who got there first.
     
  17. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    I fear the moment windows no longer comes with a browser....
    Imagine a regular sunday morning mom calls and asks how the f*** she is supposed to use the internet without a browser:eeek:

    *signs her up to some linux course, wipes her harddisk and hides the windows disk*
     
  18. dyzophoria

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    the patent system as with the justice system should really be redesigned when it comes to Intellectual property like these, its the same complaint over and over again =\
     
  19. gnutonian

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    You and the others above are completely right, in my opinion. A lot of things that are patented are so general that they encompass so many functions and ideas that, well, as DXR_13KE said: it scares developers away.
    No point in working on software when there's a good chance you'll be taken to court, lose your software and hard work, and pay up a lot of money.

    Therefore I think that campaigns such as stopsoftwarepatents.org and endsoftpatents.org are not only good, but extremely necessary.

    The patent system needs to be reformed or exclude software as a whole. If anyone can patent mathematical functions and pure ideas we're not going to have any development or innovation.

    GNU/Linux ;) (Sorry, I know it's annoying)
     
  20. Faulk_Wulf

    Faulk_Wulf Internet Addict

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    Slightly OT, but @Imperium--

    Linux vs GNU/Linux -- what's the diff? Obviously enough to *correct. So just wondering.

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    On Topic:
    Patent Trolls = Fail.

    I think a patent should have to be for a specific idea. Apple shouldn't copyright a touch-screen phone, just their specific OS that allows it to understand the input for example. Thus if another company makes a touchscreen phone as long as it doesn't use the Apple OS then it'd be fine.

    (Just an off the cuff example.)
     
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