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News Microsoft unveils official Xbox One Project Scorpio specifications

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  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    I'm going to throw my hat in the ring and guess it will cost $499.
     
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    Anything under £499 is a bonus
     
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    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    So PS4 Pro and Scorpio (along with PS4 Vanilla and Xbox One) have 8 core CPU's... So is it the developers fault that games barely make use of more than 4 cores? Or Intel for locking us down to 4 cores in the mainstream segment since 2010?
     
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    Not the same, cannot compare a cpu to a SOC which is what people do not get.

    PS3 effectively had 10 cpu cores, does not mean that it affects pc users.

    Console games rarely set the performance barriers outside of the ports we get.

    Pc would need games designed to thread through all cores, which would have to be probably done from the ground up. Strategy games would benefit best by this.
     
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    So basically, 9% more CU's than my RX480, although slightly lower clock, that is a beast of a GPU for a console.
     
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    But now that consoles are x86, are they really all that different to a PC? Especially now that Microsoft have all this UWP cross-compatibility & DX12 stuff in the XBOne? Sure the XBOne and PS4 CPUs are SoCs rather than pure CPUs - and yes, there is a difference between a pure CPU and a SoC - but it's not like neither Intel nor AMD have never released "PC x86" SoCs in the past and integrating GPUs onto a CPU isn't exactly a new idea. The chips they use might have a few more controllers integrated into them than a regular desktop PC, but they're effectively no different to a beefed up AMD APU.

    The lines are a lot blurrier these days.
     
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  9. Gareth Halfacree

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    An SoC is different to a CPU. The CPU portion of an SoC is not different to the CPU portion of a CPU, except in that it is likely to be smaller and less powerful ('cos you need some silicon space and power envelope for the rest of the SoC) and may have faster communication paths to subsystems.

    So, you absolutely can compare a CPU to an SoC, because all you're really doing is comparing a CPU to a CPU: it's just one has the rest of the system on a motherboard, and the other on the chip. Hell, these days it's even less of a distinction: remember the move to shuffle stuff off the chipset and onto the chip, like the memory controller? Even ignoring APUs like in my desktop, AMD and Intel's 'pure' CPU offerings are closer to SoCs than they are to the pure CPUs of my youth.
     
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