http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7500204.stm Wow, I never heard about this. I thought Brits were the good guys. beaten to death?
Lol, define the term 'good guys'... Although I am sure there are many respectable servicemen in the higher ranks of our army, the majority of footsoldiers I have met are a load of cocks, and more than capable of abusing their positions. I'm sure the damages done to these Iraqi people are FAR in excess of £3 Million...
What? Innocent Iraqis beaten to death, that's why the payout was given. Don't think you'd like it if a bunch of Iraqi soldiers took over England and tortured you.
THis isn't about "a few bad apples", this is about human nature and what happens when people are put in a position of authority over other people without oversight. The most famous example of this is of course the Stanford Prison Expirement in which college students volunteered for a study in which they were randomly divided into gaurds and prisoners and put into a "prison" in the basement of the university. Within days The "gaurds" began to display sadistic actions including sexual humiliation of the "inmates" The bottom line is that we all have a sadistic monster inside of us that can be let out anytime we are allowed To have authority over someone else without oversight and enforcement of societal norms. EDIT: WOOT four kiloposts!!!
If this were the case then almost every Iraqi prisoner and ever prisoner anywhere else would be tortured. What's to stop the oversight from being taken over by his sadistic monster? Many people have self control and a conscience, this is a case of people who were not fit to oversee prisoners were put in charge of them. Not saying that only a small minority of people would do such a thing, I imagine quite a lot of people would if they were given that power, but this is a minority incident (I would hope) where someone in charge wasn't doing their job properly.
What mention is there of them being innocent? And do you think if that did happen, we'd recieve anything from them? You think Iraq would send us a sorry card with some cash in it? This nation has become such a push over that it's pathetic.
The people who are pushing us over are ourselves, I don't know about you, but I'm quite appalled, as are a lot of the population. It's things like this that make us bigger targets for terrorist threats, yeah I know, I sound paranoid, but if people see the UK torturing prisoners for no good reason, then they're going to hate us even more. We don't torture prisoners in the UK (at least I hope we don't), so we shouldn't torture them anywhere else.
Actually, it is best to think of this as lying on a continuum. What we are seeing here is the extreme end of the behaviour perhaps, but some measure of brutalisation goes on all the time. It is not a clear line that gets crossed by a few bad apples --it is a slope that people gradually slide down. What mention is there of them being guilty? I think you should back out now, because it is painfully obvious that you have not got a clue what is going on. The price of being the Good Guy is that you have to be the Good Guy. You do not get to be like the Bad Guys.
