mmm expensive...

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Highland3r, 20 Nov 2003.

  1. Bluebark

    Bluebark What's a Dremel?

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    The only reason, from what I can see, why the vid card will not work is due to the fact the WS MB has no AGP slot. Its onboard vid…is that correct ZapWizard?
     
  2. cderalow

    cderalow bondage master!

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    not to mention the pic of that vid card looks photochop'd to all ****


    anyone else find something wrong with a quad r300 cored card sporting gf4 coolers? :eyebrow:
     
  3. JADS

    JADS Et arma et verba vulnerant

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    That card happens to be a real product by Evans & Sutherland, although it is normally encased in a dedicated machine.

    E&S simFusion 6000

    Why spend a small fortune so you can crunch SETI faster? That is called wasting money ;) Anyway if you really wanted to do that you could get a Sun Fire15K which I am fairly confident would be better at number crunching than a 4p Opteron system ;)
     
  4. Krog_Mod

    Krog_Mod What's a Dremel?

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    yeah this is what they call love right????
     
  5. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    nec does a nice little computer called earth simulator that may be pretty good for number crunching, i wonder what seti times would be possible

    i think you can get one from PC world :D
     
  6. 486hawk

    486hawk What's a Dremel?

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    You need either a PCI or PCIX video card for this system, as there is no onboard video.
     
  7. ZapWizard

    ZapWizard Enter the Mod Matrix

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    As above there is no on-board video, NIC, VRMs, Super I/O or even an onboard BIOS!...as it is a lot more modular then your typical motherboard.

    It is a very adaptable server board and can do a lot of stuff.
    There is no need for AGP, as you would use this system as a server or a 3D Workstation (In which case you use the PCI-X cards)
     
  8. Bluebark

    Bluebark What's a Dremel?

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    A server board with no onboard vid? I don't think I've ever worked on a server that didn't have onboard vid (discounting the old days). WS yes...Servers no.

    ZapWizard...since you work at AMD, I have a question. You may not know the answer but I’ll ask anyway. A couple of years ago I was doing an install at Dupont Photo Mask in Round Rock and while in the clean room I started a convo about the current state of workable technology. He told me that they were working on 8 micron architectures. Have you heard anything about this? Remember…this was at least two years ago.
     
  9. penski

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  10. Highland3r

    Highland3r Minimodder

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    looks like it yeah.....
     
  11. ZapWizard

    ZapWizard Enter the Mod Matrix

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    I haven't worked in a Fab enviroment in a few years, so I don't know. (I work in a Lab enviroment now..o-scopes and motherboards)
     
  12. Bluebark

    Bluebark What's a Dremel?

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  13. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    This is just a techno w*nk fest, isn't it? :D
     
  14. Shogun

    Shogun Banned

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    only for you Nexxo ;)
     
  15. Digitalblueshift

    Digitalblueshift What's a Dremel?

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    Even if the board had 4 agp slots... It would only fit in the bottom one, because the daughterboard is PCI!!! so you could only get one
     
  16. Will

    Will Beware the judderman...

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    Yeah it really does look a bit odd, the coolers look like the Thermaltake GF4 ones...

    With regards to the photochopping, photochopping can make some nice false hardware ;) :D

    Anyone remember talk of a Radeon 8500MAXX, a dual R200 cored card? ;)

    See here...basically the whole story explained over a load of forum pages...

    That was the result of me, and a couple of other people I know, creating the images in photochop (this guy named KOIF did a hell of a job ;)) and concocting a 'cover story', emailing them from a hotmail address allegedly from a disgruntled former employee called John, to a load of tech sites, to see which would post hardware 'news' without any real information or checking with manufacturers first....we sent it to:

    mikhailtech.com
    ixbt.com
    pcpowerzone.co.uk
    hardocp.com
    tweakers.com.au
    ocworkbench.com
    tomshardware.com
    anandtech.com

    HardOCP got back to us and told us we were lying straight away, rather rudely in fact (fair enough mr Kyle ;)) - from HardOCP news on the same day we emailed them (the email we got back was unprintable, heres the jist of it though that they posted on the main page):

    Tweaktown for sure posted it initially as news, anandtech posted it in a very sceptical light (with a 'hmmm is it real? You decide' sort of comment with the news) I can't remember what the rest of the sites did since it was so long ago now (1 and a half years ish).

    Basically we created the spoof card to see peoples reactions (since technologically a dual R200 card was possible and people 'in the know' noticed when ATIs driver code made reference to a second GPU..), and to see how some tech sites deal with information forward from unofficial sources...

    We got rumbled by some though:

    Here is the original email I sent:

    The whole thing did kind of backfired (which I regret, I didn't think it'd ever become public flamebait material).

    Some sites (especially Tweaktown :() were made to look really bad for posting it as fact, which wasn't the intention, but there was never any legal recourse from ATI or anyone else (they were probably pleased of the hype we started ;)) despite peoples claims of forwarding my originating IP to ATI and announcing my real name (which must've been clever of them, getting my IP and my real name as well, as some people said they were going to post on some forums when they realised I was the guy who started the whole thing, when I sent the mail from a library computer :rolleyes: ). Wouldn't try it again, but I was only 16 and didn't imagine the fuss some people would make over it all...

    So there you have it...how easy it can be to stir up a hornets nest of controversy and discussion with a photochopped 'new' product :)
     
  17. mushky

    mushky gimme snails

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    :clap: :clap:

    Excellent work Will. Nice one Bruvva !!
    :rock:
     
  18. JADS

    JADS Et arma et verba vulnerant

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    A multi core version card based on the R300 GPU is of course entirely possible. In fact this has already been demonstrated with a non working dual card by Sapphire.

    Sapphire R9800 Dual

    XGI has in fact launched a dual cored card, the XGI Volari Duo. 3dfx of course marketed the Voodoo 5 5500 that had 2 cores and Quantum 3D sells >2 core versions based on the VSA-100 architecture.

    The issue with multi core boards is production costs and thermal characteristics. These either make the card difficult to produce, difficult to produce cheaply and/or difficult to make a profit on.

    Mind you multi core cards and/or SLI would be a fantastic way of differentiating a board in a crowded market.
     

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