Motors modded cars?

Nah - real motorsport only

We took it to a couple of Golf Owners Club days at Santa Pod though...

when it had 290bhp or thereabouts (2000 or 2001, can't remember)...

...And it was running mid-11s

It was a track car, not a straight line car.

Like that guy who drag races a 700bhp evo...he decemates any other evo in a 1/4 mile but his car is set up for nothing but that...take it on a track and it wallows about...

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You have some very...interesting means of tuning engines...

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Well i dont belive in boring out your engine as that puts it at a disadvantage. And most cars are ither tuned for drag racing or track racing or offroad racing will not intermingle well in eachothers enviroment. I like old school dragracers. the 1's that twist chasis on launch no matter how strong it is and pop weelies to the point that the rear tires are not touching the ground anymore and the whole thing is basicaly standing on its rear bumper. The ramchargers of the 60's were well known for this type of stuff. Do some reserch on em and you will find some hardcore dragracers.

 

To me, a car should remain absolutely flat with no chassis flex...

...Maybe that's why I'd rather have a small, light, solid track car than a big heavy drag car...

I prefer a well handling car that will give a better lap time to an ill handling one that is all about straight line speed.

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I agree, what use is raw speed if it handles like a whale?

 

its like driving a ford excursion.

 

i totally agree with penski. as soon as this summer rolls around im putting alot of mods into my car. most for show, but the only "performance" mods will be strut bar/lowering springs (i hate the high up feel. and yes i think sitting 6", from the top of my seat to the ground, is perfect), and... um... projector lights. well the lights are more into show catagory, along with dvd player and rims, but if i get decent tires, they can be considered a performance upgrade.

 

I dont think you guys quite understand my point of view. I like strait line cars that do just that, give you lower and lower 1/4 and 1/2 mile times. Those are among my favorites for the main reason that power is so great that nothing rivals their performance. Second I like Street rods/track cars too. And all I can say is even a finely tuned 69camaro can compete with modernday cars and still keep its muscle car roots. As every one knows everything is proportional in racing. Even tho a camaro weighs more than the newer cars the engines on the camaro are significantly stronger and the chasis and suspention are performance tuned for track use and thats all.

all diferent events events have diferent cars. as a track car may be useless in a drag strip against the powerbeasts that live there. But you have the same come true when u put those dragsters in a track enviroment as the track cars will eat the dragsters alive. Point being is diferent events deserve different cars. i personaly want a street rod and maybe lader on a full blown nitrus breathing beast.

 

I drive a 2003 Civic Type R, currently the only mods I have on it are the skunk2 cat-back exhaust, blitz sonic air filter, and alpine 9815 head unit. Got a few more things in mind tho
Very tempted to get the mugen body kit, would've bought it this month but I needed to upgrade the ice cos you cant hear the pants honda one over the skunk! Gonna order new speakers/amp in bout a week or so. Will no doubt get it chipped at some point too.
Was thinking of having it lowered on some tein springs, but am a bit worried about bottoming out with the skunk.
I'll get some pics up at some point if anyones interested

 

im not a honda type of person but sounds like you got a good project going.

Im more of a raw performance type of person. Preferebly a v8 with more than 4.0L but rite now I cant afford it so im getting a golf insted.

BTW what specs does your civic type r have? Hp? tourque? mpg? and so on.

 

yeah, its a bit diff over here in the uk tho, not too many cars about with 4l+ v8's in them. Be hard to find an insurance company that would touch u! I struggled to get my civic insured!

When I had mine on a rolling road about a month ago it came up with 114lb/ft torque (plan on beefing this up a bit by chipping it) and 176.8bhp. That was taken at the hub so its roughly 220-230bhp at the flywheel.
Its quite good on petrol compared with other similar performance cars, combined is about 35mpg but if you spend most of your time in the vtec zone like I do then it drops considerably!

This is the body kit I'm after, its basically a new bumper/front spoiler, grill, bonnet (hood) and rear spoiler.

 

remember freakonaleash come to me to plan yoru hifi

 

Im wondering?
Do you know what vtech is?

I have asked around in garages and (honda specialists) and found out it was basicaly varible valve timing that gives hondas their close to 100hp per L thing but it bites you in the but when driving harsh as fuel economy drops dramaticaly.


Here in the US insurance companies dont like youngsters with high performance cars but some are required by law to take ppl but it comes at very high rates. sometimes insurance on a mustang when a youngster drives it can be as high as 7000dollars US and thats when the car is under 5 years old. but a youngster with a 10 year old econobox would pay around 1500-2000 bucks a year or even less.

 

yeah I know its just variable valve timing, but honda have got it down to a fine art and have managed to squeeze 200bhp out of a naturally aspirated 2 litre straight 4 with it.
Had the pleasure of being allowed to drive a supercharged version of my car bout a month ago...now that really did shift! had about double my torque and about another 50 bhp.

If you want the real nitty gritty on vtec check out these sites (these are about the old style vtec engine, the newer i-vtec is slightly different but based around the same principle):
http://www.hondahookup.com/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=4
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm

 

'Vtec' is only used by honda but tons of 4 cylinder cars have some sort of variable valve timing. Honda has vtec on alot of their cars. toyota has vvt-i. Isn'f ford's 'Zetec' that they have in focuses another form of variable valve timing(only on the intake cam though if i remember correctly)?
So in other words vtec isnt just a honda thing and it doenst make a civic 'fast' by any means. It just gives you a bit more juice for your daily driver.
The only time I have even seen vtec make any difference worth making was when a kid in my town got his vtec del sol timed so aggressive he got like 10 or 15 more horsepower over the normal timings. If he could only drive better then I wouldnt still beat him in my 4 door non-vtec civic. To give you an idea just how bad he is at shifting: I raced his stock del sol when i still had my cavalier, and i won.

 

0-60 in 6.4secs, top speed of 145mph and better power to weight ratio than a lotus elise...thats plenty fast for me.
I know theres cars out there much faster but not much will touch it for less than £20k, new clio 182 is one of the few I would consider, but then you got that whole french reliability thing (I used to own a clio and it was with the garage more than it was with me)

 

Im not busting on your car, as i too have a civic and LOVE it, but im saying to get a civic to be 'fast', say about 13 seconds 1/4 mi or lower, it would take alot of money and alot of upgrades. For my car as it is now to get 200 horsepower i would need over $3000 in upgrades and over $4000 if I would go the turbo route. I know you have a nicer engine, but a 4 cylinder can only push so hard. If i had the choice of any 2004 car under $25000 I would definatley get either an RSX Type-S or a Celica GTS Action Package. Both have variable valve timing, but the Type-S has more potential imo. If they only would make the whell wells a bit bigger the RSX's would look a million times better!