Electronics Molex to LED

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  1. bender386

    bender386 What's a Dremel?

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    i didnt say vs-vl=i/r
    i said vs-vl= i X r
    v=ir is the way i have always done it i thought thats the way it was ment to go ... its the way wikipedia has it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
     
  2. hydro_electric_655

    hydro_electric_655 Dremelly Dude

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    its actually
    (delta)V=ir which is

    (V sub I) - (V sub F)=(I)x(R) if and only if (V sub I) is greater than (V sub F)

    difference in voltage is equal to Resitance mulitplied by current where Initial Voltage is > FInal Voltage. I learned subs for stuff I think this is right nexxo want to make sure.

    basically you need to know basic math and about simple electronic formulas and you can use LED's if and only if you have a higher starting voltage than the LED is rated for.
     
  3. bender386

    bender386 What's a Dremel?

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    by now i recon we have confused this guy to hell.
    and now i have run out of knowledge ... whats a sub?
     
  4. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    errr..... :eyebrow:

    Think I am understanding this...
    Just popped in for some advice, now have a pad of paper covered in scrawled calculations :)

    If you increase the resistance, that drops the amount of power that gets to the led right? And if so, does that make the led dimmer? How many (?) mcd should a normal (not super bright) case have? Keep seeing 10,000 as ultra bright and such which I don't want.

    Also, if the resistor does decrease the brightness of the led, can have a switch that add/removes a resistor? So sort of a brights/dims switch?

    I failed high school electricity so the less jargon the better. I can always learn the jargon and apply it to my laymans knowledge. Harder the other way :)

    Btw: Is this too off topic?
     
  5. bender386

    bender386 What's a Dremel?

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    i think this thread has gone off topic allreddy. yes you could add a switch with a resistor in parallel, when the extra resistor was "switched" on the the led would get brighter.
     
  6. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    brighter??
    aww man...I am confused... :waah:

    So does adding resistance increase the brightness?
     
  7. bender386

    bender386 What's a Dremel?

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  8. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    :thumb: @ linky

    That does clear things up (although I'm not too sure why that happens, I now know that it does ;) )

    So I assume it will be easier to add a resistor in parallel with a switch, just open that route (I don't know the terminology... :blush: ) to the current?

    Will read through more of those course notes (free education!) but am a little slow when it come to electricity (seriously, I just don't get it...) so any and all help is awesome :)

    So thanks a lot! Really appreciate it :thumb: :clap:
     
  9. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Picture worth a thousand words jobbie
    Code:
    +5V----R1---+--R2--+----LED----0V
                |      |
                +-o/ o-+
                 Switch
    
    The switch shorts out the second resistor so with the switch closed the LED gets more current, glows brighter.

    60,000mCd may sound a lot, but compared to the light from a CCFL it's nothing much. It's also a very narrow beam, so try it before doing too much work fixing it in the case.

    bender's from Oz, they do things upside down. :lol:
     
  10. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    :worried:

    If the switch is closed won't that force the current through the 2nd resistor? If I'm wrong its coz I can't read the pictures :blush:
    In my mind its all canals and locks :rolleyes:
    So what i see is if the switch is open the water *cough* electricity will be diverted through the switch. So it will look (or act rather) like this:
    Code:
    +5V----R1---+      +----LED----0V
                |      |
                +-o/ o-+
                 Switch
    and with the switched closed:
    Code:
    +5V----R1---+--R2--+----LED----0V
    No?
    :confused:

    p.s. sorry its taking me so long to twig :blush:
     
  11. Mr_SCSI

    Mr_SCSI What's a Dremel?

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    how does that switch effect anything?

    apart from giving another route for the +5v to go when on...

    as the R2 is still connected with the switch on or off :confused:
     
  12. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    WOOT!
    I'm not the only confused person!!
    :D:D:D
     
  13. AJB2K3

    AJB2K3 What's a Dremel?

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    Electricity is lazy, it will always take the easyest route.
    In the above example when the switch is open the electricity is forced to go though the second resistor.
    With the switch closed the the electriciy bypases the second resistor and takes the easest route.
    Think of electricity as the moron in the sports car racing to get to work.
    Grrrrrrrrr i've lost the ability to type (dang typo virus)
     
  14. Mr_SCSI

    Mr_SCSI What's a Dremel?

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    Trust me... that's no huge statement where I'm concerned! :worried: :blush: :rolleyes:

    So it will ignore the resistor completely...

    Mmm... that little trick will come in handy! :idea:
     
  15. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    OH!
    I think I get it!
    By open do you mean not joined? Like when a bridge is up? I've been thinking open like a door....
    So open would NOT allow the current to pass through, and closed would? I hope I'm right...
     
  16. Mr_SCSI

    Mr_SCSI What's a Dremel?

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    Yep...

    o/ o = open

    o--o = closed (connected/joined)
     
  17. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    COOL! :cooldude:

    Although thats a pretty silly way of putting it :lol:

    glad I was not understanding because of something really incongrous, otherwise I'd just feel stoopid
    :duh:
     
  18. hydro_electric_655

    hydro_electric_655 Dremelly Dude

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    Ok you might get this say you have a line from a pump. You have 2 water blocks you have a valve that will allow water to bypass the second block and not go through it since the block is terribly restrictive so you open the valve the water goes through the valve instead of the block since its easier now the stupid water will go through the block, which if the analogy used with people would be about 95% epople would go through the crouded exit and 5% would go to the other exit. hhehe.

    But sub is just something I wrote because I can't do subscript its just a way to give a variable a different identity or value as something with the same notation. So for volts you have starting and ending or in this case deisred. Now you can figure out how much current will pass through the resistor by multiplying the voltage drop from in to out of the resistor and deviding the wattage that the resistor can remove from the line that will be a minimum the more wattage the less the current will be restricted. You could get a rotary switch and have each setting change the resistance by a certain amount.
     
  19. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    We've got [ sub]f[ /sub] tags that (without the space) give Vf

    Also [ sup]2[ /sup] superscript ones for x2 etc.
     
  20. lnr

    lnr What's a Dremel?

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    Yeah, I undestand it now. Only thing that was confusing me was that whenever someone said "open" I thought "closed"...
    I have my reasons....
    :worried:

    :D
     

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