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Build Advice monitor and a gpu for around £300 please

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by louist44, 16 Mar 2011.

  1. louist44

    louist44 New Member

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    Not too sure what to do atm regarding a graphics card... So far I have the following components selected but am not sure if I should place my order yet or wait.

    i5 2500k
    Fractal Design R3
    1TB Samsung F3 Spinpoint
    ASUS P8P67-M PRO REV3 (In stock soon)
    4GB Corsair Vengence Blue DDR3 @ 1600 - Two sticks
    750W Silverstone Strider Modular 88% Efficiency
    Cyborg V.5 Keyboard
    Windows 7 Home Premium
    Edimax EW-7612Pin Wireless card

    Still need a monitor and GPU... Was planning to get a 560TI.. either the MSI Twin Frozer or the ASUS DirectCU II. Im sure 1 is more than capable for now and later if necessary I could purchase another and run it in SLI.

    Not sure if the PSU is over the top for SLI 560 either :eyebrow:

    For the monitor I was thinking 24 inch or 22 inch, max resolution while gaming would be 1920 x 1080 and full HD :)

    Recommendations for GPU and a nice monitor please!
    Budget... as little as possible. Dont want to spend over 1000 pound but it looks like I have to. Max would probably be... £1100 (for whole build) this leaves around £350 for leftovers.
     
  2. Strudul

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    Yes, Get either of those 560s (whichevers cheaper)

    I think a 750W is 'bout right for SLI 560s

    Don't know much about monitors.
     
  3. markbrett64

    markbrett64 thanks to denial I am now immortal

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    This monitor is probably the best in that spec that's close to your price range. If possible go for an IPS panel over TN.

    Though with a 560 that puts you at around £450 GBP... you have to pay for quality.
     
  4. Strudul

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    I agree with the monitor. I don't agree with the price.

    These prices are much better
    linky 1
    linky 2

    And you could always drop the gfx down to a 460?
     
  5. louist44

    louist44 New Member

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    Thanks for the links guys, that monitor looks nice!

    Suppose an alternative for the 560 would be a 460? still a capable enough card and saves me around £40

    EDIT: Im sorry I just completely ignored that last sentence of yours xTactic !! I thought it was part of your sig :S
     
  6. mucgoo

    mucgoo Well-Known Member

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    Come down to a choice of
    1. £110 TN panel + gtx 560 (£190)
    2. £200 IPS 2311H + gtx 460 (£140)
     
  7. markbrett64

    markbrett64 thanks to denial I am now immortal

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    Agreed they are much better prices.... have to confess I didn't look at the price.
     
  8. louist44

    louist44 New Member

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    These IPS/TN panels, will they make much of a difference to me?
    Im not much of a monitor guy so I dont know, I just want something that I can look at for hours on end, It does not have to have the best picture quality around as long as it supports HD and is a decent size I am happy
     
  9. [PUNK] crompers

    [PUNK] crompers Dremedial

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    its up to you really, but an IPS panel will make you glad you spent the money everytime you see it, SLI will just give you more frames.

    have you considered single 560 + IPS? thats what i'd get without a doubt, if you want to sli you can always get another card later
     
  10. Strudul

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    If you read the OP, he said he would like to get a single 560 and monitor now, and then another 560 later. He only wants to spend about £300.

    So how do you get a 560 + IPS to under £300?
     
  11. [PUNK] crompers

    [PUNK] crompers Dremedial

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    my humble apologies clearly didn't read the thread properly. carry on.
     
  12. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Here are the facts about TN and IPS:
    http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=205069 (see post #10)
    Of course, on the above doesn't take in consideration laptops (as it is a different story), and small budget.

    Sadly I can't show you any picture comparison, as if you have anything other than a PVA or IPS LCD monitor or a CRT monitor, your monitor will show everything wrong, and probably show the wrong picture as the most nice.
     
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  13. Fingers66

    Fingers66 Kiwi in London

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    Where are you pricing up your whole rig build from?

    With the right pricing, you might be able to afford the rig, an IPS monitor and a GTX 560 for £1100.

    I'll have a go and add it to this post in a minute or five.
     
  14. louist44

    louist44 New Member

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    Cheers for the input.

    Would you recommend me buying a monitor, and settling for a cheap second hand GPU for the time being, when I have the funds I can upgrade to my desired card? Perhaps by then the prices will have fallen?
    Ill probably have a little look around on ebay for a 8800.

    EDIT: Pricing it up from SCAN. I could save a bundle with an OEM version of windows 7 perhaps. But I am not too clear on the differences VS retail. Some claim it does not allow any upgrade at all and others say they can put in any mobo they want.
     
  15. Fingers66

    Fingers66 Kiwi in London

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    Unless you are going to constantly change the m/b, OEM is fine and saves some cash.

    Right, here is what I have priced up, using the Today Only page up at the moment for some deals.

    I have not included an optical drive (£12) or an after-market CPU cooler (£25 for the Gelid Tranquilo) as I wasn't sure if you needed them or not. The Vengance RAM isn't the blue version but was in a bundle with the Asus m/b (a higher spec one than you mentioned above).

    1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 £- 38.90
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit, Operating System, Single, - OEM - £74.48
    Cyborg V.5 USB Gaming Keyboard - £33.83
    Fractal Design Define R3, Black Pearl - £81.70
    Edimax EW-7612PIn 300Mbps Wireless 802.11 b/g/n PCI Express Adapter - £17.60
    1GB MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II/OC - £209.47
    750W Corsair HX Series, Modular, 80 PLUS Silver, 90% Eff' - £99.59 (*Today Only)

    Plus the i5 2500K bundle...(*Today Only)
    8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V
    Asus P8P67 Pro Rev3, Intel P67, S1155, PCI-E 2.0 x16, DDR3 2200(OC), SATA 6Gb/s, SATA RAID
    Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, 1155, Sdy Bridge, QuadCore, 3.3GHz, GPU 850Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W, Retail - £365.99

    Total = £921.56

    Add a Dell U2311H from CCL Online for £228.10 (free delivery for forum members like Scan)...

    Grand Total = £1149.66 (£50 over budget)

    With some astute purchasing of special deals, and dropping down to the P8P67-M Pro m/b and 4GB of RAM, I think under £1100 is do-able. You should be able to add an optical drive and CPU cooler as well.
     
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  16. microsoftPerson

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    If it is cheaper for you, just purchase the Upgrade Version of Windows 7 instead. There are numerous guides to activating it when doing a clean install. It takes about a minute to get it activated. The only thing you need to know now is leave the CD Key blank during the install and then google: "clean install windows 7 upgrade" on your new O/S. The regedit method works best. You can also call Microsoft and tell them your hard drive crashed and you had to do a clean install and they'll help you out.
     
  17. Spanky

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    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DELL-2209WA-2...mputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item27b92f69c5



    This is a 22inch IPS from this guy at Ebay ... NRG_IT. I have purchased from him before and ALL of his gear in mint! Sure its only 1680x1050 but its an IPS still .... Would leave you enough cash for ya 560.

    If you wanted bigger and better in future these things always hold their second hand value very well. As i said this is a very trusted seller and you will onky get top notch gear from him.

    Hope this helps.
     
  18. Deders

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    If you want to go SLI in the future, bear in mind the the twin frozer will leave more heat in the case which can build up considerably if you don't have sufficient airflow in the pcie area, also heat rises so it will affect your CPU temps.

    Might be best to go for one with a covered design that directs the hot air out the back of the case.

    Saying that my cards are open design and it only really affects the temps when everything is really stressed, hasn't happened whilst playing games yet.
     

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