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Hardware MSI Big Bang-FUZION: Lucid Hydra arrives

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Lizard, 8 Jan 2010.

  1. Lizard

    Lizard @ Scan R&D

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  2. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    It was worth a try, but I think that this is still a very driver dependent thing. Too bad though as it had some potential, I'm guessing it's the PCI-E bottleneck though, since SLI/Crossfire uses those plugs.
     
  3. OWNED66

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    i thought it would have been a success but it sucks

    now i know why nvidia wasn't concerned about hydra
     
  4. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    I think the big mistake was releasing it too early and not testing it completely, becuase it sounds like with a bit of polish it could work.

    Or maybe it's just that there's not enough bandwidth.
     
  5. M7ck

    M7ck Ⓜod Ⓜaster

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    You mention that no price has been announced but Scan has it listed as in stock at £268.55 Inc VAT
     
  6. Jenny_Y8S

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    It's an example of a product where engineers who've said 'we can do this' have shaped the direction, but it's a product nobody needs at that price even if it did work.
     
  7. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    Its pointless and a fail!

    Intel X58 and P55 chipset's have finally given the gaming market what they want, the ability too switch platforms with out changing the motherboard.

    Now AMD need to do something similar, allowing the competition to run SLi on there chipsets.
     
  8. vadim

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    shame, but it was to be expected. maybe another 3-8 years and they would have good working drivers not only for 3dmark :eyebrow:
     
  9. Guest-16

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    Thank you! Didn't see that and MSI didn't tell us they had been shipped to the UK yet. I've added an addendum to the article in the price section, but because we never change scores after publishing we won't add a value score. :)
     
  10. wuyanxu

    wuyanxu still wants Homeworld 3

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    the ASIC design concept is good, and very well made SoC. but the software just wasn't isn't there.

    perhaps the software intercepting API calls may not be the best solution? im not sure, but it sure has a lot more potential than nVidia/ATI's software split frame. even if the benchmark doesn't so it yet.
     
  11. xaser04

    xaser04 Ba Ba Ba BANANA!

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    Its interesting that when Techreport tested the Hydra board (albeit pre production) they did notice performance similar to SLI/CF for the given cards.

    http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/17934/3

    I can only assume this is a result of either hand picked games specifically chosen (as they show a significant peformance increase) or something happening at a driver level (as noted in this review its very complicated and picky).

    I am quite glad that Bit have done this review (and a damn good one at that) as it shows in real world conditions Hydra still has some way to go (being polite).

    Its annoying as the idea and principle are excellent.
     
  12. Elton

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    I think to be honest and fair though we have to give it some time as driver implementation is much less grounded than SLI/Crossfire.

    With a good amount of time it may be the alternative that we've been dreaming of.
     
  13. tad2008

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    I think that if Lucid had managed to develop a purely hardware based version with no additional drivers required then both Lucid and MSI would have been on to a winner here.

    MSI have always been keen to develop and work with new technologies and bring together ideas in to one neat solution, this is one that looked and sounded darn good on paper and is a shame it didn't really meet expectations, but then this seems to be a common event for MSI.
     
  14. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    Well, the hardware is obviously solid, and the software is fairly bullet-proof if you didn't get any driver issues (if I'm fair, I was expecting Hydra to be a horror-story of BSODs and corruption and... well, you get the idea), Provided the venture capital funding doesn't die because of the bad reviews, Lucid could get something quite special out if they can get the improvements seen in 3D Mark to translate to everything else.

    I won't be buying one (I wouldn't be buying one anyway) but it's something to keep an eye on. Regardless, something like this will always be more of a headache than a single card of any flavour.
     
  15. Guest-16

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    Absolutely! The hardware is solid, but it was never to be the case.
     
  16. Digi

    Digi The not-so-funny Cockney

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    It seems to me like an obvious and forgone conclusion. Adding an extra chip into the process of piping graphics through your motherboard and into your monitor, having that doing complex things etc, it just makes common sense that there would be a performance hit right off the bat.

    The fact is though that they did it. It works. It can be done. Now maybe they might get some interest from the bigger companies to help it use it's full potential or to revise it for the next board. It would be nice, but I doubt it will happen.
     
  17. Elton

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    Actually if we look at it from the perspective of chip makers, this really hasn't been done in the past, so Digi has a point, this is a good step forward, although it isn't very advantegeous now, later on it will prove to be much better.
     
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    Kudos to MSI and Lucid for getting it to work at all, but really, is there that much demand for something like this? I was under the impression that multi-gpu systems are still fairly niche and out of those prepared to spend £500 on graphics cards how many have thought "gee, I wish I could run an ati card with my nvidia one in sli?". The whole point of spening so much money on a setup is to get the maximum performance, and, considering that there is usually only one obvious card on the market at any one given time, would they not just go for two of the same? The main situation I see this being useful is in some sort of QA machine for software developers (mainly games), but the need for separate drivers from Lucid/MSI precludes that.
     
  19. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    Ambitious... But rubbish.
     
  20. trig

    trig god's little mistake

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    personally, i'm amazed this thing shipped. not only that, i'm dumbfounded the people involved on either side still have jobs. this is a massive fail. who in their right mind would buy this thing? potential? who cares.

    i should try this at work today. im going to go tell my boss that i can't take on anymore projects because i want to take existing projects and design a way to make them run slower. then, if i still have a job, i want to do just that, and then put those hydra-inspired projects into production. surely when the company vp's have to wait to get their reports they will say "this works great, lets see if we can sell this process to other companies....give trig a raise."....lol
     
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