Okay, I've got to vent. Bear with me, it's kind of a long story... A few weeks ago I misplaced my drivers license and so I went to the NY State Dept of Motor Vehicles yesterday to get a replacement one. I decided that since I got pulled over for speeding last weekend and a NY State Trooper got perturbed when I told him that I misplaced my license a while ago, it was a good time to get my license replaced. Yea, I know, I should have done it sooner, but I kept putting it off. Anyone who's ever been to the NY State DMV will understand why. Well, they said for proof of who I am, one of the things I needed was my Social Security card. Okay, now I lost that damn thing in a move 15ish years ago so I went to the Social Security office durring lunch. Ugh. Mistake #1. After waiting for over an hour, my number was called. I went up the the bullet proof window seperating the lady from me with all kinds of documents in hand. I pre-filled out the correct forms, brought plenty of identification, sat down and told her what i was there for. I told her, gave her the filled out paperwork and she asked for my drivers license for ID. I re-explained why I needed a replacement Social Security card and told her that I had many other forms of ID. I produced my ORIGINAL from 1968 birth certificate, Chemung County Sheriff's ID, medical insurance card, W2 from last year's taxes along with the filed tax return, recent pay stubbs, a MasterCard, Visa, court paperwork from my divorce, for good measure, an old drivers license and my employee ID. Now, in order for me to get that employee ID, I needed a ton of identification as I work at a hospital. None of that was good enough for them. I asked what I CAN bring in leiu of a driver's license and she told me a letter from my doctor on his stationary indicating who I am. Uh, okay. I mentioned again that I work at a hospital and told her how easy it would be for me to get a piece of letterhead from ANY doctor and type the damn thing myself. Plus, I'm curious as to what a doctor has to do with any of this. I never have shown him any ID of who I am, he doesn't know my Social Security number and doesn't even have my leagal address (I have bills sent to a Post Office box)! She said that it's all due to 9/11. Right. See ya. Thanks for nothing. The funny thing about all this is to work here at the hospital, because I have access to very confidential information (medical records, social security numbers, credit card numbers, etc), I needed to show many forms of ID (birth certificate, driver's license & sheriff's ID) along with going through a background check. I don't understand why my employee ID, which has my picture, birthdate AND social security number on it, isn't good enough. My questions for the group are: 1> What does a doctor have to do with who I am? 2> Since I work at a hospital and have access to doctors offices and their letterhead, how secure can that form of "identification" be? 3> Why does it seem that every single government agency blames everything on 9/11?