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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Luda, 19 Jul 2003.

  1. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    well i got my new system all up and running. and its great!.. when its working that is.. it seems i dont yet have my sytem stable yet. sometimes ill be playing counter-strike, or watchin tv on my GFX card, and the program will just shut down, or my whole computer will turn off.. im new to this stuff so the only thing i could think was over heating? btw.. i dont have it overclocked at all yet... any help would be very appreciated
     
  2. Prae

    Prae What's a Dremel?

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    what cpu u got in the system, if ur comp shuts down due to overheating it will beep a few times and shut down, you can check in ur ios what temp ur cpu will have before its shuts downin order to protect the thing from frying. what sorta temps u got on boot up? and running. tho the shutting down of programs now and again and not the whole system dosent sound liek over heating..anyhow if ya get back migth be able to give ya a hand
     
  3. fivecheebs

    fivecheebs Dont panic!

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    Luda, In your other thread you had PSU problems. I know you fixed them but what psu did you get. It could be that your GFX card is trying to draw too much when youre playing games.
     
  4. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    i got an antec 400 watt.. the problem at first was my first psu dint have the four pin 12V connector... what im thinking now is that drivers are interfering withn each other.. so im reformat/reinstalling and installing my custom gfx card and sound card drivers only use the drivers my mobo gave me when necessary
     
  5. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    i remember my tv tuner doing that years ago with teh same symtoms and stuff. my solution was installing xp. i then realised that voodoo went out of business and couldnt get drivers. oh well what could i have done anyway. oh yea voodoo files.com didnt have what i need. anyway your problem is somehow your drivers. try out the latest drivers and if they dont work well uninstall them and go to a earlyer driver. im running a little bit outdated drivers on my system becuase the newest ones caused my screen to get messed up after a minute. your rebooting is windows shutting down after a BSoD.
     
  6. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    i was just running SiSoftware Sandra and it told me my mainboard was 127 degrees celcius! im guessing this is why my pc keeps crashing ... but i dont understand because my case has 4 fans.. i guess they arent placed very well? any tips are appreciated
     
  7. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    heres what the "Performance Tune-Up" report said:

    SiSoftware Sandra

    System Summary
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Mainboard Information
    Analysing...
    Power / Aux Temperature : 127.0°C / 260.6°F
    Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
    Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
    Warning 2518 : Mainboard temperature is too high.
    Tip 2513 : AGP Bus is unused or AGP card not fully AGP compatible.
    Tip 2525 : Current AGP data rate not optimal.
    Tip 2536 : System has no SMBus/i2c/BMB bus support.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    CPU & BIOS Information
    Analysing...
    Notice 224 : System BIOS : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
    Tip 207 : System BIOS : A SMBIOS/DMI 2.3 or later compliant BIOS is recommended. Check for a BIOS update.
    Tip 212 : System BIOS : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.
    Tip 211 : System BIOS : BIOS is flash-able and socketed so it can be upgraded when needed.
    Tip 210 : Processor 1 : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.
    Notice 224 : Processor 1 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    APM & ACPI Information
    Analysing...
    Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    PCI, AGP, CardBus Bus(es) Information
    Analysing...
    Warning 1209 : ATI Technologies Radeon 9700 Series - Secondary : Video card does not have an interrupt assigned.
    Tip 1202 : Chaintech Computer Co Ltd Unknown (1724) : Device does not support bus mastering.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Video System Information
    Analysing...
    Tip 319 : ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 SERIES : A refresh rate of at least 75Hz is recommended. Increase it if possible.
    Tip 322 : ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 SERIES : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode.
    Tip 323 : ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 SERIES : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance.
    Tip 319 : ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 SERIES - Secondary : A refresh rate of at least 75Hz is recommended. Increase it if possible.
    Tip 322 : ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 SERIES - Secondary : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode.
    Tip 323 : ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 SERIES - Secondary : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Windows Memory Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Drives Information
    Analysing...
    Warning : 1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.
    Warning : Removable Disk (D:) : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.
    Warning : Removable Disk (E:) : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.
    Warning : Removable Disk (F:) : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.
    Warning : Removable Disk (G:) : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.
    Warning : CD-ROM/DVD (I:) : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Ports Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Keyboard Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Mouse Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Sound Card Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Printer and Fax Information
    Analysing...
    Error : No printers installed : Could not initialise the Print object!
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    MCI Devices Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Windows Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    WinSock Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Processes Information
    Analysing...
    Tip 1601 : [System Process] : Program consumes a large amount of memory.
    Tip 1601 : SiSoftware Sandra : Program consumes a large amount of memory.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Modules Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    OLE Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    DirectX Information
    Analysing...
    Error : IPX Connection For DirectPlay Ver 6.00 : Function Unavailable
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Network Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    SCSI Information
    Analysing...
    Warning 2600 : WDC WD80 0JB-00ETA0 : SCSI version does not adhere to ANSI. Probably ATA/ATAPI device.
    Warning : No devices on host : No devices found.
    Warning : No devices on host : No devices found.
    Warning 2600 : SONY DVD-ROM DDU1621 : SCSI version does not adhere to ANSI. Probably ATA/ATAPI device.
    Warning 2600 : SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 : SCSI version does not adhere to ANSI. Probably ATA/ATAPI device.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Font Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    CMOS Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    OpenGL Video Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Services Information
    Analysing...
    Tip 2130 : Messenger : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Remote Access Auto Connection Manager : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Remote Registry : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Task Scheduler : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Secondary Logon : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Distributed Link Tracking Client : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Windows Time : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Tip 2130 : Windows Management Instrumentation : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    ATA/ATAPI Information
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Data Sources Information
    Analysing...
    Error : Connect to DSN failed/inactive : Could not connect to the database.
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Hardware IRQ Settings
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    DMA Settings
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    I/O Settings
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Memory Resources
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Plug & Play Enumerator
    Analysing...
    Finished Successfully : Yes

    Performance Tune-up Wizard
    Finished Successfully : Yes
     
  8. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    ok i didnt read the full thing but i am going to assume that it was a inacurate reading. 127 C is above boiling point. i dont know what temp causes a mobo to fry but i dont think your computer would be working still if that was its temp.
     
  9. ChillingSP

    ChillingSP What's a Dremel?

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    Man, if you have 127 c on your motherboard you should try to feel it with your hand.
    If you can't feel that heat probabaly is a temp misreading from the bios (and you can set "ignore" to bios monitoring).
    If you feel the heat pal, you have a very serious problem with your mobo :(
     
  10. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    sisoft sandra is inaccurate. i just ran it on my computer and it thinks my processor voltage is se to high. im like umm no i undervolted from 1.525 to 1.375 and it runs stable.
     
  11. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    well my pc is still proving to be unstable, which is upseting when i just spent 2000$ on it..

    more details on symptoms:
    -i'll be using a program such as AIM or IExplorer and it will give me the send/dont send report close dialog and when i try to reopen it it gives me the same thing untill i restart
    -ill be playin counter-strike and my pc will just restart out of nowhere

    at this point all i can think is unstable drivers or bad RAM

    are there any good diagnostic tools for software/hardware besides sisoft sandra? or anyone know of any common issues?

    here are some details from my mobo OC utility

    CPU - fan 3444 RPM - 46C
    SYSTEM - fan 0RPM??-34C

    Vcore - 1.5V
    Vdimm - 2.64V
    Vddq agp- 1.52V
    Memory - 400
    200 MHz FSB
    PCI&AGP - 66&33
    CPU speed - 2800
    CPU multiplier - 14 ???

    thanx for all yalls help.. im really hoping to get this stable soon because you want/expect good quality from 2000$.. specially since all the products got good reviews.. oh well.. any suggestions appreciated
     
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  12. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    please.. anyone?? - bump, bump bump it up
     
  13. sja360

    sja360 What's a Dremel?

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    try using memtest to check ur memory,
    as for your temps they should be fine (i think)
    try gettin a shot of some memory from someone and then remove ur stuff and see if its stable.
     
  14. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    ok.. i ran memtest twice.. each time for about 5 mins 45 seconds and the first time it found 1588 errors and the second it found 2104 errors.. this seems like a high number? could this be my problem? i have no idea how signifanct each error is.. thanx again

    hmm /looks at memory package.. sees "award of Excellence - Bit-Tech"
     
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  16. BioSniper

    BioSniper Minimodder

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    really it sounds VERY likley to be your RAM or CPU. memtest is a pretty good app ate detecting problems. Don't knock the award for excellence. it's always great unless you have a faulty one :D
     
  17. Luda

    Luda What's a Dremel?

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    ok.. ima see about RMAing it ASAP
     
  18. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    your error count should = 0
     
  19. TheoGeo

    TheoGeo What are these goddamn animals?!

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    woa woa, i just did a thread saying my temp was exactly 127 degrees.... cant be a coincidence surely
     

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