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Need to go on a low/no carbohydrate diet

Discussion in 'General' started by specofdust, 17 Sep 2006.

  1. Nexxo

    Nexxo Stopped treating this country as if it was his own

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    Naah. ADHD is a neuropsychological condition. Not as common as you'd think --most misdiagnoses are just kids raised with poor boundaries and structure, high on junkfood, sugar and additives.
     
  2. sam.g.taylor

    sam.g.taylor Apparently I'm Greg Kinnear

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    My dad's a personal trainer, and he tried a very-low-carb diet(Atkins, specifically) for a while, but it didn't work well with him - during that period his body would pretty harshly reject any gluten products he did eat.
    I guess if you did try this, the best advice I have would be not to eliminate carbs completely, and try to eat natural sugars (fruits, etc.) to compensate for potential energy (because that's what carbs are) loss.
     
  3. BioSniper

    BioSniper New Member

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    Also always seek the advice of a doctor first :)
     
  4. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    A doctor? Hah, no :D

    Doctors round here have trouble bringing themselves to diagnose illnesses that have had designations in the WHO for years. I can learn more myself from talking to the smart people I know and my own personal research then my doctor would tell me in ten hours, let alone the 10 minutes I get with one.


    And Woof82, if you've been exceptionally healthy, full of life, and sharp for the last three years, then maybe you do have the opposite of what I have, and I'd be happy to go halves :)
     
  5. woof82

    woof82 New Member

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    I totally agree with this.
     
  6. DreamTheEndless

    DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon

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    FYI - a zero carb diet is dangerous and should be avoided. There are some good books on low carb diets that are worth checking out if you are interested in pursuing this includinging "The Carbohydrate Addict"
     
  7. :: kna ::

    :: kna :: POCOYO! Moderator

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    Well I did atkins and Vic has got CFS so I know a bit about this.

    A No Carb diet is just not sustainable, it's hard enough to sustain a low-carb one. I did Atkins for about 2 months and honestly thought I was going to die, I had to stop for my health. I know *one* person who has maintained a low-carb diet for over 9 months and that's purely for weightloss, they're certainly not enjoying it.

    If it helps, great, but like everyone else I would recommend a low carb diet and see how you go first and if you get even the slightest hint your body isn't happy, come off it.

    Onto CFS. Vic has tried *everything* to cure her CFS and nothing has helped (this is in nearly 7 years), the closest she has come is homeopathy, for which she's been given Silica and, placebo or not, that does seem to bring her up.

    Unfortunately there really doesn't seem to be a miracle cure for it, if there was, we'd have tried it.
     
  8. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    Apreciate the continued replies on this folks, some very usefull information here :)

    kna, I've pretty much decided what you're saying, no-carb would be nasty. I've looked into specifically what I'd be needing to do, and it looks like a low-carb diet with specific and limited carbs at first would do enough, so I'll do that I guess. Combining it with low GI stuff to stabilise my blood sugar(hopefully).

    I've tried several things myself, but I can't say I found homeopathy did me any good, not to say it doesn't work for others. Different things seem to help different people, which is I guess part of why no-one can decide what actually causes CFS. Apreciate the heads up nonetheless.

    Sorry to hear about Vic, seems like everybody knows someone with this damn illness, g'luck to her with recovery :)
     
  9. dire_wolf

    dire_wolf Last Of The Dovakhiin

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    Plenty Of:

    Meat
    Chicken
    Turkey
    Fish
    Eggs (egg whites)
    Nuts and seeds
    Olive oil
    Flax seed oil
    Omega 3
    Vitamin Supplements (Iron, Vit C among many)
    Whey Protein Supplement
    Water (and plenty of it)

    That's basically my diet, but with plenty of Green Veg included (obviously you don't want that if your after low carbs)

    Without the veg it's really low carbs but has practically everything you need to carry on going, as well as helping you build muscle etc

    Hope that helps

    [EDIT]

    Forgot to mention, if your looking into flax seed oil, get the liquid, not the capsules, you have to take about ten of them to get the same as you would from a single spoon full of the bottled stuff, crazy I know

    [/EDIT]
     
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  10. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    Does indeed, thanks dude :)
     
  11. bort

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    I went on a low carb diet for a few months and it doesnt mean giving up carbs completely but limiting what you eat.

    This is what I ate

    6AM - Oatmeal and eggs (you'll probably want to replace this with a fruit of some sort, your body still needs carbs its a matter of when and what quantity it gets them)

    9AM - grilled chicken breast

    12PM - two grilled chicken breasts and brocolli (very few carbs in most of the green veggies)

    3PM - grilled chicken breast

    6PM - 2 more grilled chicken breasts and a salad

    9PM- protien shake

    your daily carb intake will be minimal but you'll get most of the vitamins etc that you need

    eating more often cranks up your metabolism so that you'll burn more energy (and fat)

    this diet was created to loose weight, your goals are slightly different

    you'll find that eating this diet is as boring as hell and it really sucks but stick to it, it is possible albeit tough
     
  12. gar

    gar Active Member

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    Well, I went on a low carb diet that helped me win two Irish Hill climb Championships in cycling. I was loosing over one pound of fat every day.

    However I spent allot of effort with the diet ensuring I did not loose muscle mass, by taking a small amount of high glycemic carbs (15-30g per day).

    It worked for me two times. I was able to loose 14 pounds in two weeks and train up to 100 miles per day using fat instead of carbs for fuel,

    It is possible to train the body to use fat as fuel, and because of this the body can deal with it very efficently, which is why for some people the Atkins diet works of some people with serious hrrlth problems, but one thing you must consider that every persons body will react differently. You cannot say that the diet is bad, or good. You will only know after trying it for your self.

    The only thing you need at first is a very strong will! I don't think the human body was designed to do this long term, but it may not hurt in the short. The only problems I had was an halucinacion and a bad unperpared for bout of the runs! Anyway, give it a try and see what you think!
     
  13. dire_wolf

    dire_wolf Last Of The Dovakhiin

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    If you were losing a pound a day then there is no way you weren't losing muscle aswell, the safe limit is 2 pounds a week
     
  14. gar

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    question for dire_wolf.

    Maybe I did loose a little muscle, but certainly I experienced no significant strength loss my muscles did not appear smaller either. My point was that I experienced an insignificant effect on my muscles. I don't have the specialized equipment to analyse my muscle mass.

    As far as the safe limit of loosing fat is concerned (I'm assuming you are talking about fat) Do you think it would be unsafe for a person who's weight is for example 200+ pounds to loose more than two pounds of fat per week following a good diet and daily excercise?

    My point is with this question is that giving a text book answer to prove experience wrong like making a swing in the dark. Are you a GP?
     
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  15. dire_wolf

    dire_wolf Last Of The Dovakhiin

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    Hi gar, excuse me for jumping in there, it just appeared like you were making quite a few bold unorthadox statements, I know you know what you are doing but extreme advice giving to someone just beginning is quite dangerous. Sorry if you took my comments as inflammatory or insulting, it honestly wasn't supposed to be :)
     
  16. Lovah

    Lovah Apple and Canon fanboy

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    I know you're probably sure you have CFS, but it is very hard to diagnose and often mis-diagnosed (from what I've read). I would advice getting a diagnose from several specialists. You're normal "house-doctor" probably isn't the best choice for something like this.

    And as many have sed, including yourself, a zero-carb diet is very very hard and unhealthy for long-term. But, I don't think it will seriously "hurt" your body if you only do it for a short time, especially if you are in a healthy shape atm. It will be unpleasant though.

    But for the diet, I again suggest you seek the advice of a specialist in the field of low/no carb diets. They may not tell you anything that you didn't already know, but since you asked here for advice, then you might aswell ask a specialist then.

    Best of luck! I hope this works for you! Good luck,

    L
     
  17. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    Thanks, but I've had it for a few years, and I've had plenty of tests done on me.

    I'm kinda slotting myself into a low-carb diet atm, just working things down towards possibly coming off carbs for a while totaly, I'm still eating carbs with about 1/3 meals a day, but not much, and tbh so far I'm finding it ok. I guess going zero carb would be the really hard thing 'cos my body'll miss it, but I'll see how this goes for now.

    Thanks again for all the advice folks :)
     
  18. Lovah

    Lovah Apple and Canon fanboy

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    Best of luck!
     

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