Build Advice New build ~£900 budget

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  1. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    Someone posted recently that ASRock had said it wasn't down to limitations, just they didn't think there is any demand for high end micro ATX AMD boards.

    This has been my Amazon basket for a couple of weeks. I wish I had more money :)

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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    Yeah, I kinda ninja'd the post after a quick google :lol:

    good mATX boards would be awesome :)
     
  3. AlienwareAndy

    AlienwareAndy What's a Dremel?

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    There are MATX boards with the power circuitry to run the 83xx CPUs. The sad part is they are not 990FX so you get no SATA III.

    SLI is pretty much pain free now. Ever since the 590 Nvidia (and EVGA, link coming) have really put a lot of effort into making sure it always works. I've had only minor issues with it (one or two games) that were fixed pretty quickly.

    Two 660s comfortably beat the 680. The higher you go from there nets you more and more power. I run two 670s and they're faster than a Titan. Not bad for £570 spent (I got one at launch and one back in January for my birthday).

    However, with the launch of the 760 you have an opportunity to pretty much do the same thing (two 760s) for only £400. That's only £50 more than a 770 and they'll absolutely batter it. In fact, they'll batter a 780 and will still be faster than Titan.

    http://www.evga.com/sli/Default.asp

    Basically if Nvidia are taking their time EVGA get the job done.

    It starts off brilliantly. The battles with the soldiers are absolutely great. Once again it all goes wrong when it ditches that play style and goes over to nothing but aliens. Then it just turns into a boring slog tbh. It's a shame.
     
  4. AlienwareAndy

    AlienwareAndy What's a Dremel?

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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA...373459571&sr=8-1&keywords=gigabyte+990fxa-ud3

    Is cheaper and infinitely better looking IMO. I'm not a fan of the Sabertooth I think it's fugly.

    If you drop to a 8320 then you have £60 or so left in the kitty to buy a new case. That's easily done now. There are plenty of cases that will take a full sized ATX board for £60 and offer decent cooling.

    The 'magic number' now for gaming is 4.2-4.5 ghz. Easily done with the 8320.

    I posted a load of benchmarks before but when the 8320 is supported properly (which is quite a lot of the time now) it easily strolls past the 3570k and starts to punch the 3770.
     
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  5. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    Yeah, the Gigabyte's a lot prettier. I'd heard that the Sabertooth was the best 990FX board.

    It's all academic now though, I've already upgraded my main PC. My Haswell CPU is going back to Amazon though - it's appalling at overclocking (needs ~1.35v to get 4.3GHz stable - others are getting 4.6GHz at 1.2v).
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    Of course I could buy a new case, but I don't really want to, the Parvum S1.0 I currently have was picked specifically for size, watercooling and awesome looks. Also it cost a fair bit so I don't want to just get rid of it like that. Therefore as much as I'd like to move to AMD I think I'll stay with Haswell, to be honest there won't be that much of a difference.
     
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    AlienwareAndy What's a Dremel?

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    Ahh I see. Sorry man, didn't know you had a special case :D
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    No problem :)
     
  9. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    Have you decided what to do?

    I like the idea of two 760s, you can get rid of the silly RAM to afford it :)
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    Hmm, I'll definitely be going Haswell, but I'm still undecided between two 760s and one 770, on one hand the 760 SLI setup appears to kick ass from benchmarks, but on the other hand there's the fact that, well, that doesn't always reflect reality, and SLI is a pain and still poorly supported in some games I play (e.g source engine games). Also more power usage, and two waterblocks... hmm, hard decision :D
     
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    Two 760s will pee on a 770. Seriously, it's not even close. They will also be right up there with a Titan.. For source games simply go to your desktop...

    Right click and open Nvidia Control Panel.

    Go to the part where it lists all of your installed games and apps.

    Go to the part about multiple GPUs and simply disable SLI for that app.

    With the newest drivers you can do all of this with Geforce Experience, but I prefer to use the other method (you can also add games that, say, you've used a nodvd on).

    I also do this with games that don't need SLI as it saves you a ton of power ;)

    Edit.. My daughter in law is on my PC atm but I'll do a brief tutorial for you later when she's had enough :)

    Missed this ! yeah that was me. Basically yeah, no demand. Doing 8+2 on MATX isn't hard.. Hopefully when the consoles arrive demand will pick up :)
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    Hmm interesting... but then I'd need a 750w PSU, right? Either way if it's Titan performance for 1/2 the price I'm in :D and that's without overclocking it! If I get the ACX cards they've been know to go up to 1350MHz core and 7000MHz RAM, they seem to be binned...

    How about waterblocks though, does anyone know if the EVGA ACX 760s use a GTX680 pcb like the SC EVGA GTX670 did?:)
     
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    AlienwareAndy What's a Dremel?

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    I priced up a PSU for you.. Corsair Gamer series. I think it was 700w? but that's what you need for SLI 760s :)

    I've no idea on the ACX. Be careful, because one of the Signature series 680s used a custom power circuit that wasn't compatible with any block.

    Seriously I've been on SLI 670s since Jan and before that I was on SLI 480s and it will rarely give you any problems. Far Cry 3 took about 3 weeks to be sorted but one card was enough to play it any way. Obs it's much nicer with SLI but yeah, didn't stop me playing :)
     
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    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    My new board only does 8x in the second slot, or I'd be tempted to try SLI/Crossfire myself.
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    But that's x8 PCIE3, so the same as x16 PCIE2 = maximum 2% performance loss

    Anyway I always go with the Silverstone Striders now, I hate Corsair since I bought an AX850 and they took 3-4 months to send me a bloody replacement cable, and the Striders are nice and easy to sleeve :)

    I'll need to look into the 760 waterblock situation then. Thanks everyone for your help, rep left :)
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    HERE's a new basket - it comes a little bit over but I think it's worth it :) chose the cheapest 760 because I don't really think I'm going to notice any difference between frames - everything should go over 60fps anyway, and also they're reference, i.e a GTX670/760 (if they're released) block will fit :)
     
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    AlienwareAndy What's a Dremel?

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    Looks good but whatever you do, DO NOT buy PNY.

    Two reasons really. 1. they suck balls, 2. they will be void as soon as you remove the cooler.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/520366-evga-n...z-2048mb-256-bit-ddr5-fan-hdmi-02g-p4-2762-kr

    Order two of those from there. Top warranty and EVGA don't void warranty for fitting a water block.

    8x 8x is about 5% slower at worst than 16x 16x.
     
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    djzic Bokehlicious!

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    Cheers for that heads-up, I'd prefer to buy it all from the same place so 2 of these should do nicely I think.

    EDIT: double checked and the model I linked is indeed the reference PCB version, here's a link someone might find useful.
     
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  19. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    I keep hijacking this thread, sorry ;)

    I've thought about selling my 7970 for something a little less powerful as at the moment I'm not gaming much - so if I got a 7950 or 760, I could put a second in later. Hmm...
     
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    AlienwareAndy What's a Dremel?

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    Right here we go :) just got in before my daughter in law fired up Tomb Raider :D

    First you go here..

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    Then it's as simple as this...

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    And you can choose what you want the GPU/S to do.
     

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