Still I'd say the Phenom is a massive upgrade over the current build, and if he's a self-aware fanboy then you're likely just wasting your time suggesting Intel. Anyway the Formula is nothing but waste of money. Get a cheaper motherboard (790FX/890GX). They will serve you just as well as the overpriced Formula, I haven't had problems hitting stable 4 GHz on 965BE on any of the boards I've had. Also frees some money for the 5850.