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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by slambittech, 4 Mar 2020.

  1. slambittech

    slambittech Member

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    Budget: 1000, maybe can stretch another 100 but dont really want to.
    Main uses of intended build: Streaming ps4/PC, gaming and some video editing.
    Parts required: Everything for the tower.
    Previous build information (list details of parts):
    Monitor resolution: LG 27GL850, 2560x1440 nano IPS 144hz freesync/gsync compatible.
    Storage requirements: SSD, however i have 3.5 1tb hard drives that i can use for data drive.
    Will you be overclocking: no
    Any motherboard requirements: not really, but nice to have Wifi if worth it
    Extra information about desired system:
    Already have elgato, mic and monitor, mouse and keyboard, would i need liquid cooling as with the budget it will probably be a average build.

    Thanks
     
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  2. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Are you wanting to use this for gaming too?
     
  3. slambittech

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    Its mainly for gaming yes.
     
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  6. slambittech

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    Personally I would avoid MSI on Ryzen. That may be my bad experiences with lots of boards of theirs, though.

    You're losing PCIE 4, and possibly more USB ports. Other than the PCIE 4 though the rest is easy to spot, just have a look over the back plate and connectors. I always grab the manual for a board I am considering then have a good read over a cup of tea. MSI also made a complete stinker of a board recently so it seems they have become the new Gigabyte. IE they are cutting corners.

    Talking of whom. I can't praise my Gigabyte Aorus X399 enough. First of theirs I have used since X79 and I'm very happy, so..

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aorus-B450...?keywords=gigabyte+b450&qid=1583362685&sr=8-3

    Just do your research first on CPU support though. You may also find that B450 boards don't have enough juice to supply the 3900x and 3950x, too. I just checked for you and yeah, apparently it supports both, though don't expect to ever overclock them. However, all that said if this is a use it for 5 years PC and then replace it's absolutely fine.

    Oh yeah you may gain an extra NVME slot on the dearer boards too, but tbh using it for anything but booting it's worth it. SATA SSDs are great for storing games that do load faster, NVME makes no difference there.
     
  8. slambittech

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    Lol, amazon must of seen the message about msi, it's gone further down in price since.
    Thanks for letting me know. Might just look at getting the 570.

    Although just seen a ryzen 3900x for £390 which is a great price.

    Thanks
     
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    Yeah I tried to work around that but it proved too much sadly. It's one mean ass chip though. Proper rocket ship.

    Maybe consider a X470 board. PCIE gen 4 is kinda daft on x570 because the lanes are the limitations. Like, I'm running 32 lanes just on pcie ssds in my home rig.

    The 2070 is the best buy entry mid level at the mo. It'll be finite though, but man that's great value.

    I'll be fitting my Asus Dual OC tomorrow. I paid £20 more for it, but only because the 2080 wb fits. I'll do some tests on my 16 core Haswell, so I'll go for GPU bound tests.

    It'll be going up against a KFA2 2070 Super on air in the same rig, then next week it'll do battle with a Titan XP, both under water.

    I'll add games into that too.
     
  10. slambittech

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    What do you think about the rgb stuff? I am considering getting some rgb ram with the white case rather than black.

    Something like Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 Enthusiast RGB LED Illuminated Memory Kit - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GTG2T7L/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_j4kyEbX2MH4CT

    Also 32gb is Overkill but future proof I guess?
     
  11. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Some MSI on B4** are good. Not sure on the X5** boards.
     
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  12. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    I'd definitely recommend X470 for Ryzen unless you absolutely positively *need* PCIe gen 4. If you're interested in overclocking I personally wouldn't go any lower than that.
     
  13. modd1uk

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    Nothing wrong with the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX, a solid board. Averages between £85-£100. I've used a few, 0 issues.
     
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    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    That's fair enough. I just said personally I wouldn't go below an X470. In my experience they've got better components and some more features. I'm sure there are plenty of excellent B450 boards out there - just I've never had any experience of any of them. Compared with X370, X470 seems much easier to use with regards overclocking
     
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    Sorry George that wasn't aimed at you, was more of a general comment regarding that specific B450 board. It's a minefield across all B450, X470, X570 boards regarding VRM quality / temps. Look at MSI's X570 VRM temps...think it was hardware unboxed? that did a video not long back, I think there was one or two MSI X570 boards that were OK.
     
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  16. slambittech

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    thanks for this, i will look into it. looks like a solid build similar to pervious build.

    Thanks
     
  17. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Wow - I missed that video. That board was throttling at stock - PCB temps of 116ºC are ridiculous! It's definitely a minefield. I have to admit I went for the top of the line X470 (the Crosshair VII) and it's fantastic. Coming from 1st Gen Ryzen I never thought I could just chuck in 32GB of RAM and have it work at 3200MHz with timings of (off the top of my head) 14-14-14-20 and have a 2700X overclocked to 4.25GHz but it just works.

    /threadhijack
     
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    Yeah that board is awful.
     
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    Avoid corsair kits, take a Ballistix instead, cheaper and far more potential for overclock, every Ballistix kit I've tried was able to be pushed easily to 3800 C14 1:1 with Zen2 and a decent board, like the Tomahawk B450 MAX, the CH7, CH8, X570 Taichi etc.

    p.s.: The Ballistix 2x16GB Dual rank (3200 or 3600) is also a great option for 32GB, same OC potential, 3800 1:1 C14 easy
     
  20. Diletta Graziosi

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    agree with you, great perf/price for ballistix, they have micron E die chip if i remember correctly
     
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