Build Advice New Build PC really hanging!!

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  1. Eviljaxx

    Eviljaxx What's a Dremel?

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    Hello,

    Just built my new PC this evening but its having major problems which I hope you guys can help with as I am at a lose now!

    Firstly the spec:

    Processor: Intel® Core™ i7
    Motherboard: Gigabyte EX58-UD5
    Memory: Super Talent Project X, DDR3, PC3-16000 (2000MHz)
    Hard Drives: RAID 0 (Stripe) Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB (x2 Obviously for RAID:thumb:) & Seagate 1.5TB
    Graphics Card: PCI-e INNO3D GeForce 260 GTX & PCI Graphics Card (Displays 3 Screens)
    Power Supply: ZooStorm Titan 650W

    Now the problems... I built the PC with no issues and fired it up and it seemed to be working fine, changed all the BIOS settings and enabled the RAID Array on the motherboard :rock:still no problems. It was when I started to install WindowsVista 64 and also 32 that the problems became apparent the system was dog slow I am talking about taking at least 5 mins simply to load the select language screen there just didnt seem to be any Hard drive activity and the system looked like it had timed out!

    I have tried everything I know from running Single drive configarations such as a WD Raptor on its own and then trying the other WD Raptor on its own and also running the Seagate 1.5 TB whichever drive I try same problem dog slow! The RAID was equally as slow when tried as well.
    While I am talking about the drives I have also tried them in all of the 6 different SATA ports and even tried them in the G-SATA ports and its the same problem every single time.

    The BIOS seems to put the 2x WD Raptors as both being Masters and the Seagate as a Slave even though they are all cable select.... if this information is needed! My thoughts are after narrowing down what the problem could be that the SATA controller may be faulty on the Motherboard or even the Processor may be the problem.....

    I hope someone can help

    Cheers!
     
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  2. DorkSterr

    DorkSterr Hakuna Matata

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    I bet you installed your OS on that 1.5TB Seagate?
     
  3. Eviljaxx

    Eviljaxx What's a Dremel?

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    Hey,

    No didnt even get to install the OS on any drive as it was just hanging from as soon as it first tries to load the startup to the Vista installation!

    I also set in the BIO that the WD Raptors in RAID and also while I was testing Single drives where always set as number 1 in the order list!

    Cheers
     
  4. DorkSterr

    DorkSterr Hakuna Matata

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    unplug the seagate and continue from there, I know for a face that the seagate has something to do with this because I had the exact same problem as you.
     
  5. oasked

    oasked Stuck in (better) mud

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    That power supply doesn't exactly fill me with confidence either TBH.
     
  6. Guest-16

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    ZooStorm Titan! LOL! What's that?

    It's either your PCI graphics card or your PSU.
     
  7. Jenny_Y8S

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    My i7 rig does the same when installing vista or 7, don't know why it's just an issue with it scanning hardware. Be patient and keep waiting, it will continue. Mine stalls for about 15 mins to 30mins.

    But when u get past this phase everything is fine.

    Not spent any time investigating as installing windows is a rare thing.
     
  8. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Everytime I've installed Vista, it takes AGES to appear to do anything. You get the green/blue wavey screen backdrop.. no progress bar.. no disk activity.. nothing. I've installed Vista 64 on three separate machines now: A c2duo, an old FX60 and a brand new i7. They've all done the same - takes around 6 minutes or so to actually appear to do anything.

    It's bad design if you ask me. Surely a simple message saying "Please wait while Vista does something unfathomable" or whatever to stop you pressing reset would be good. Yes.. the fist few times I pressed reset and started checking for hardware problems. It's only almost by accident I found out this appears to be normal ( I went for a pee and noticed it was at the first set-up screen when I got back).

    Just try again.... go do something else for a while... come back.. carry on.


    I have a 1.5Tb Seagate for back up.... it's pretty fast

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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    It's a mod for Zoo Tycoon, it adds stormy weather conditions and viking warriors :D
     
  10. Snuffles

    Snuffles Dreamy Mammoth

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    I cant believe you shelled out out all that dough on a killer system and put in that PSU. A couple gerbils and wheel would have better Max power and efficiencies.

    My money is on the PSU.
     
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  11. Eviljaxx

    Eviljaxx What's a Dremel?

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    I had the power supply from a previous system and just transplanted it across thinking I could save some money didnt know it might cause such a problem on a newer system!!

    However I also tried today to install Windows XP today simply to test the installation and as it loaded all the Drivers during installation etc it actaully Memory dumped (blue screen) me and then continued crashing their after... Would you say this is a sign of a cheap power supply or something else?

    Cheers
     
  12. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    Lol, don't think the PSU is that bad, did a quick search, and the unit is rated at 18amps per 12v rail for a combined 12v of 41 amps, not great, but enough for the OP. The MTBF is a bit suspect at 50,000 hrs at 25 Celsius, compared to 100,000 hrs for most quality PSUs., the biggest joke is pcnextday.co.uk, has it for sell at £116, their management team must a serious drug habit to justify that price! I prefer to sacrifice a little and “save” for a better PSU, such as a Corsair, Coolermaster, Be Quiet, et AL, thats why I'm on a forum on a Saturday night, instead of being down the pub, new build coming up!
    TO the OP, if you still have your old system, you could swap the PSU over and see if it functions OK.
    To me, it sound like a possible ram problem, have you checked your setting and timings in the BIOS. How much system RAM do you have and are you running dual or triple channel memory. By the way are you sure that your RAM [Super Talent, Project X, DDR3, PC3-16000] is compatible with the Core I7, as is runs at 1.9 volts, higher than Intel recommends.
     
  13. Guest-16

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    MTBF is a crap standard. Pick a number out the air and double it. It's the 25C you should be worried about - most good ones are rated to 40-50C.

    Amperes on the 12V line - again, pick a number and write it down. It doesn't describe efficiency, voltage and line quality, rail distribution, wire thickness, topology, fan quality etc.

    We install Vista almost everyday here and it only hangs when there's a BIOS bug. We recently had a Gigabyte AM3 UD5P board hang finalising installation with a 720BE and ACHI was enabled, but not when IDE was being used or an 810 CPU was put in - very strange. It's usually a driver problem then, especially for RAID. My RAID 5 on ICH10R stuttered for ages until I installed SP1 and updates, and tried other BIOS'.
     
  14. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    True, that is why we like Bit Tech, you put the facts to the fiction. What does the temperature refer to, case temps or inside the PSU? Also, does RAM @ over 1.65 volts actually damage the CPU, or were Intel being over cautious?

    Cheers
     
  15. Guest-16

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    PSU intake/environment air temp - this is usually case temp.

    Core i7 memory must be within 0.05V of the Uncore (L3 cache and memory controller) voltage. So if your CPU is 1.15V memory can be 1.65V, but if you increase it to sat 1.45V CPU for overclocking your memory can be 1.95V!
     
  16. Snuffles

    Snuffles Dreamy Mammoth

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    Its like spending $2000 dollars on a set of speakers and using $0.10/ft. speaker wire.:(
     
  17. Splynncryth

    Splynncryth 0x665E3FF6,0x46CC,...

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    Are the drives all SATA? If so, then master/slave doesn't make sense unless the controller is in IDE compatability mode. But the Gigabyte board also has a second SATA controller (and I think it has IDE from the same chip). So where are the drives connected? How about your optical drive, what is it connected to?
    I am concerned the ICH SATA hosts and the add on controllers may not be getting along and causing problems with the BIOS services Vista needs until it gets its drivers loaded.
     
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  18. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    Until somebody can show me a review of it, how do we know it's a pile of crap, the only place selling in the UK, that I found, is listing it at £118 pounds, more than the Corsair, Be Quiet and similar quality PSUs, it may be massively overpriced, but I doubt it is as bad as the bargain bucket, Newegg or similar crude. Please Bit-Tech, do a review of the Zoostorm Titan 650W, April fools is coming up soon, but you never know it could be a gem:thumb:
     
  19. Bbq.of.DooM

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    Fixed it for you.. at least $0.10/ft speaker wire won't catch on fire and explode and blow up your speakers and amp
     
  20. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I wasn't saying it was hanging... it just appears to be doing nothing initially due to no progress bar, or message.
     

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